- From: Patrick Stickler <patrick@voyager.gate.net>
- Date: Fri, 2 Dec 94 17:45:31 +0100
- To: www-html@www0.cern.ch
> I was going to let this go, but the more that I thought > about it, the more felt that I had to pursue it. > I don't mean to denigrate Dan's idea, or suggest > that Paul is wrong for supporting it. However, > I have to argue against PIs as our solution to > the often expressed need to have local control > over formatting. > > So, please forgive me for what I am about to say. > I really think that it needs to be said. .... [remainder of content deleted] ... > =========================================================================== > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Murray C. Maloney Internet: murray@sco.com > Technical Publications Writer/Architect Uucp: ...uunet!sco!murray > SCO Canada, Inc. My Phone: (416) 960-4031 > 130 Bloor Street West, 10th Floor Fax: (416) 922-2704 > Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1N5 SCO Phone: (416) 922-1937 > =========================================================================== > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsor member of Davenport Group (ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/davenport/) > Member of IETF HTML Working Group (http://www.hal.com/%7Econnolly/html-spec/) > Member of SGML Open Internet and WWW Technical Committee > =========================================================================== > I very much appreciate Murray's arguments for attributes as a solution for defining formatting characteristics in HTML documents. I am wholeheartedly in support of such an approach. Not only is a solution needed that is clearly constrained and well defined, but it must be as intuitive and easy to use as possible or else the average author is not going to use it. Attributes are nothing "new" in HTML, and there already exist HTML browsers and editors (e.g. HoTMetaL) which support them, so it will not require major re-engineering to add attributes for defining formatting characteristics. Even if style-sheets become normal usage, attributes should be the mechanism by which an author can specify per-element instance formatting. It is also then possible to define a standard default formatting for all HTML documents by defining those defaults in the attribute definitions in the DTD. I would like to stress some related points which I had made recently in comp.text.sgml that I feel are critical to the future value of Web documents: that HTML be kept in closer line with the basic tenets of SGML and content-based functional markup (in direct contrast to recent proposed extensions by Netscape) and that furthermore, browsers become strict in their parsing of HTML document instances, notifying the user/reader when a document instance is invalid (rather than trying to guess around the HTML errors). The current trends of extending HTML to be little more than a glorified LaTeX or troff, and of browsers hiding errors in HTML documents by guessing the intended result and displaying them properly, will merely encourage (directly or indirectly) the proliferation of invalid HTML document instances, the markup of which is functionally depreciated. Web users must be made to appreciate that the information that is rapidly proliferating world wide will not be read/processed only by human readers, but (if the intended informative functional markup is used) there will be intelligent processes operating over that information. In other words, although the interactive display of Web documents is a major application of Web technology, it is not the only application -- and what is of utmost value is the information, not how it is displayed. Presentation *is* important, don't misunderstand me, but it is not *most* important. Finally, the specification of formatting characteristics associated with HTML documents should be treated merely as recommendations by the author as to how the document should be displayed -- the browser should allow the reader to retain full control over how information is ultimately formatted. This is essential for full portability of the information as no author can know all possible environments in which his/her document will be displayed, and although most readers will have hardware that will support a common sized screen, readers on other platforms (e.g. PDA's) should not have to struggle with documents fixed in a format for larger screens. The most important value of the Web IMHO is the accessabilty of information, and future extensions to HTML and other Web standards and technologies should work to protect this key characteristic. =============================================================================== Patrick Stickler Email: patrick@voyager.gate.net Senior Computer Systems Engineer Phone: (407) 356-9852 Office Information Group 356-6094 Lab 1 Martin Marietta Corporation 356-7725 Lab 2 MP1270, 12506 Lake Underhill Rd. 356-5685 Lab 3 Orlando, Florida 32825 U.S.A. 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