- From: Rev. Bob <rev-bob@full-moon.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:19:30 -0400
- To: hwg-newtech@hwg.org, hwg-html@hwg.org, www-html-editor@w3.org
Has anyone else noticed the fundamental flaw in the <NOSCRIPT> tag as currently implemented? Consider the following page (sans DOCTYPE): <html> <head> <title>Document Title</title> </head> <body> <script language="Foo">Boogedy!<br></script> <noscript>What language is "Foo?"<br></noscript> End of text. </body> </html> In theory, this is easy to follow; since there is no "Foo" script language, the <script> content will be ignored and the <noscript> contents will be shown. Thus, the display should be: -=-=- What language is "Foo?" End of text. -=-=- However, that ain't how it works. Try it in MSIE 3.x or Communicator and you'll see absolutely NO output...either way. Why? Because while they don't recognize "Foo" script (thus skipping the <SCRIPT> tag), they parse <NOSCRIPT> contents *only if scripting is disabled*...whether they understood the <SCRIPT> tag that immediately preceded it or not. The HTML 4.0 draft specification only makes matters worse. It depreciates the use of the LANGUAGE attribute for <SCRIPT> in favor of the TYPE attribute. Y'know, JavaScript 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2 ALL share the "text/jss" MIME type! THIS DOES NOT HELP. Here's what I propose. Before the LANGUAGE attribute can be depreciated, it needs a replacement that will adequately substitute for the information that it provides. To that end, I propose allowing the <NOSCRIPT> tag to take the TYPE attribute, as well as developing a new VER (version) attribute that would apply to both <SCRIPT> and <NOSCRIPT>. With those changes, the above page would look like this: <html> <head> <title>Document Title</title> </head> <body> <script type="text/foo" ver="1.0">Boogedy!<br></script> <noscript type="text/foo" ver="1.0"> What language is "Foo?"<br> </noscript> End of text. </body> </html> In this model, the <NOSCRIPT> tag is activated if the browser does not understand the script language specified in the type/ver attrbute pair - in this case, FooScript 1.0. The code will still degrade well on non-scripted browsers (identically to the current model), and would operate better on future browsers. Unfortunately, nothing short of manufacturer patches will fix existing browsers. -- Rev. Robert L. Hood | http://rev-bob.home.ml.org/ Rage InfoCentral | http://rageccg.home.ml.org/ CCG InfoCentral | http://rev-bob.home.ml.org/info_cen.html Chattanooga, TN LARP | http://paradigms.home.ml.org/ Get Off The Cross! | http://gotc.base.org/
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