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Re: xForms replaced in UK Insurance Industry

From: Andy Johnston <arjohnston@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:50:28 +0000
Message-ID: <BAY101-F34C18581126ED9BA89DB3D84EC0@phx.gbl>
To: mark.birbeck@x-port.net
Cc: www-forms@w3.org, dharmesh.mistry@edgeipk.com, dharmesh.mistry@edgeipk.co.uk


I am not a member of the forum (too many other memberships ;o) so I can't 
post the item, so would appreciate if you cold as I have not had any 
feedback from anyone other than you.

As a freelance developer in the insurance industry I can't back every horse 
and as such am very new to xForms. I know a fair amount about Polaris though 
from my EDI experience. Polaris provide general and small business 
commercial insurance standards. These standards were created by the 
"industry" through Polaris so that insurers and brokers can communicate 
through a common language and avoid point2point integration. The standards 
are defined as XML Schema's for both Quote and Service transactions.

Doing a few searches I find that Dharmesh Mistry is their CTO and is a 
member of the forum, so I hope he will reply (he is copie although I have 
guessed his email address).


>From: "Mark Birbeck" <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
>Reply-To: mark.birbeck@x-port.net
>To: "Andy Johnston" <arjohnston@hotmail.co.uk>
>CC: www-forms@w3.org
>Subject: Re: xForms replaced in UK Insurance Industry
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:28:13 +0000
>Hi Andy,
>>Mark please could you share the article with the forum as I can't post it
>Was it blocked by the list? I received it, but if you can't post it to
>the list, I doubt I will be able to.
>>The article clearly states that XForms is being replaced by a product from
>>Edge IPK. If Edge IPK (CEO Mike Williams is quoted) are part of the forum
>>perhaps they could comment? Looking at (www.edgeipk.com) edgeconnect, 
>>product,  there is no mention of xForms in their product guide or website?
>the edgeConnect system looks to me like a layer that delivers HTML to
>the browser, so it's not necessarily the case that XForms has been
>removed from the architecture altogether. It could be read that they
>are "moving away" from the current presentation layer, to a different
>But I agree that you might be right. It would be a shame if they have
>moved from XForms, since the problems with Polaris are certainly not
>caused by XForms itself.
>>The article is from Professional Broking, in this there is a longer 
>>by the MD of Polaris who confirms the move away as being positive. Polaris
>>are backed by the major UK Insurers and are responsble for iMarket (a
>>portal) and the General insurance standards (based on XML).
>Sure...but there are other XForms server-side systems that are better
>than Polaris, there are UK insurers who are doing things that are
>separate to Polaris, and there are insurance industry portals other
>than iMarket--so the end is certainly not nigh. (I don't know what the
>last bit about "General insurance standards" means, so I can't speak
>to that part.)
>I'm not suggesting complacency, but I am saying that amongst the
>people we're dealing with in the UK insurance industry, XForms is well
>supported and has a bright future.
>Mark Birbeck
>x-port.net Ltd.
>e: Mark.Birbeck@x-port.net
>t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232
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