RE: Deploying (accessible) XForms today?

An XForms processor implementation to ease this tension exists ...
FormFaces. We are sure there are many improvements needed ... FormFaces
open source at SourceForge ... please join in. 

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From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Stefano Debenedetti
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 15:43
To: Charles F Wiecha
Cc: Erik Bruchez; www-forms@w3.org; www-forms-request@w3.org
Subject: Re: Deploying (accessible) XForms today?


Charles F Wiecha ha scritto:
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> Erik writes...
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>>>and Ajax is here to stay, which makes this is a very important topic.
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> Perhaps one angle to explore here is to work toward AJAX toolkits
having
> more direct support for XForms.  Many of them are now introducing data
> models, model-view binding notations, and event systems.  If these
were
> aligned more closely with XForms we'd have a much better story not
only
> for accessibiliy but in general...
> 
> Charlie Wiecha

Excellent point, btw it would be a great start if AJAX-based XForms
implementations offered interfaces and APIs that are sexier to the more
general AJAX crowd and/or that make it easy to integrate with frenzier
libraries... 

ciao
ste
 
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> *Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>*
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> Raman,
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> I don't think that the fact that today's implementations do not meet
> accessibility requirements necessarily means they cannot. At least, I
> would like to see compelling arguments in that direction, and clearer
> technical details about exactly what is lost (and shouldn't be lost)
by
> going from XForms to XHTML.
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> IE is not supporting XForms anytime soon, and Ajax is here to stay,
> which makes this is a very important topic.
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> I think ignorance of the requirements for accessibility is a more
> important reason why most Ajax-based web applications maybe lack in
> accessibility. We are unfortunately as guilty as anyone here.
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> -Erik
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> T.V Raman wrote:
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>>>From what I've seen coming out of some of the server side
>> processors, I'm afraid your're correct
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>> Allan Beaufour writes:
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>>  > Since not everybody is using a browser with XForms capabilities,
if
>>  > you want to deploy XForms today, server-side transformations might
be
>>  > needed. But how about accessibility? I fear that you loose that
then?
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>>  > /me steps aside and hopes for some good answers from the
> server-side crowd :)
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>>  > --
>>  > ... Allan
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> Orbeon - XForms Everywhere:
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