- From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:36:29 +0100
- To: "'Rafael Benito'" <rbenito@satec.es>
- Cc: <www-forms@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <5A6937BB-1C7D-40A9-8413-24DBE61AD5F6@s15.mail.x-port.net>
Hi Rafael, I think the big difference with the Ajax 'community' is that they produce lots of examples, run Wikis that explain things, and so on. I don't believe XForms is that difficult, but I think new users do need orienting, yet the XForms 'community' has been pretty bad at providing the support needed. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that this is one of the worst 'communities' I have seen--take a look at things like SVG and Python and you'll see primers, samples, Wikis, and all sorts. So, in short, if XForms has a low take-up we only have ourselves to blame! As our contribution to helping XForms move forwards (in addition to providing a free plug-in!) we have set-up a Wiki, and have tried to add demos, links and descriptions to help people use XForms. But it needs a lot more, so if people want to help with examples, code snippets, handy links to web services, pattern descriptions or whatever they want, please head over to http://www.xforms-wiki.com/. One other initiative worth mentioning is that we will be working with the guys at Orbeon to produce some substantial cross-processor examples. Once done they will go up on the Wiki, and we hope that these will also help people new to XForms. Regards, Mark Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd. e: Mark.Birbeck@x-port.net t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/ b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/ Download our XForms processor from http://www.formsPlayer.com/ _____ From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Benito Sent: 25 October 2005 11:55 To: www-forms@w3.org Subject: AJAX vs. Xforms <http://www.satec.es/plant_correo/img/Logo_sistemas.gif> AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) architectures are attracting a lot of attention from the Web developer community. Some features, like requesting to a server a piece of XML to update the UI without refreshing the whole browser window, that make AJAX to be gaining recognition, are also present in the Xforms Recommendation. However, it seems that Xforms adoption is evolving at a much lower rate than AJAX. I wonder for the reasons that are causing this to happen and what the Xforms community should be doing to more strongly push Xforms into the web development arena. Any ideas or comments on this issue? Kind regards Rafael Benito Ruíz de Villa e-business Manager Mobile (+34) 617 314 293 rbenito@satec.es MADRID <http://www.satec.es> Avda. Europa, 34 A 28023 Aravaca Telf.: (+34) 91 708 90 00 / 91 211 03 00 Fax: (+34) 91 708 90 90 / 91 211 03 90
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