- From: <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:47:41 -0800
- To: werner.donne@re.be
- Cc: www-forms@w3.org
Well said!
The other thing to note is that XForms is not a stand-alone document
type.
As a consequence, a repeat structure can look drastically different
depending on whether it is being embedded in an XHTML Basic, XHTML
Full, or XHTML+SVG document
Werner Donné writes:
> Hi,
>
> The form controls in XForms are only an abstract specification of what
> kind of
> interaction is desired in a certain situation. An XForms implementation
> is not
> obliged to always map a certain form control to the same GUI control. A
> stand-alone
> input control could be mapped to an edit field, while an array of input
> controls in
> a repeating structure could produce rows in a grid control.
>
> The possibilities depend on the sofistication of the XForms
> implementation.
> If you have a table-like structure in your form, you express that
> abstractly
> with a repeating structure containing the needed controls. This is what
> guarantees
> portability of forms.
>
> Regards,
>
> Werner.
>
> > Other controls ? Grid ?
> >
> > From: DESEYNE Jacques (jacques.deseyne@swift.com)
> > Date: Fri, Feb 01 2002
> >
> > *Next message: Dan Dennedy: "RE: forms"
> >
> > * Next in thread: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Kit Davies: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Kit Davies: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> > * Other mail archives: [this mailing list] [other W3C mailing lists]
> > * Mail actions: [ respond to this message ] [ mail a new topic ]
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:45:39 +0100
> > From: DESEYNE Jacques <jacques.deseyne@swift.com>
> > To: www-forms@w3.org
> > Message-id: <3C5A55B3.5F6E0964@swift.com>
> > Subject: Other controls ? Grid ?
> >
> > All,
> >
> > From my lecture of the current Last Call draft (I've discovered XForms only very recently), it would seem that an XForms
> > specification is not really intended to provide a framework for generic User Interfaces. It lacks several controls commonly found in
> > widely-used GUI “foundation classes”.
> >
> > Among other things, one 'control' we frequently need is a kind of grid or table, to present a set of tuples. In principle, it would
> > be possible to mimic a grid by repeat structures, but the appearance and behaviour will be slightly different, in the best case. Of
> > course, one could always envision to make her/his own non-standard extensions...
> >
> > Maybe I am missing something and I should apologise for not having read some requirements document, but what was the motivation to
> > limit the defined controls to more or less what is already available in HTML forms ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jacques Deseyne
> >
> > Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (S.W.I.F.T.)
> > SWIFTAlliance WebStation Development Team - IT/Interfaces
> > http://www.swift.com
> >
> > This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information that is
> > confidential and/or proprietary and is intended for the sole use of
> > the recipient(s) named above. It is not intended to create or affect
> > any contractual arrangements between the parties. If you have received
> > this e-mail by mistake, please notify the sender and delete it immediately.
> > Thank you for your cooperation.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > * Next message: Dan Dennedy: "RE: forms"
> > * Next in thread: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Kit Davies: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Dan Dennedy: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Reply: Kit Davies: "RE: Other controls ? Grid ?"
> > * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> > * Other mail archives: [this mailing list] [other W3C mailing lists]
> > * Mail actions: [ respond to this message ] [ mail a new topic ]
>
> --
> Werner Donné -- Re BVBA
> Engelbeekstraat 8
> B-3300 Tienen
> tel: (+32) 486 425803 e-mail: werner.donne@re.be
--
Best Regards,
--raman
------------------------------------------------------------
T. V. Raman: PhD (Cornell University)
IBM Research: Human Language Technologies
Conversational And Multimodal WWW Standards
Phone: 1 (408) 927 2608
Fax: 1 (408) 927 3012
Email: tvraman@us.ibm.com
WWW: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/raman
AIM: TVRaman
PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman.asc
Snail: IBM Almaden Research Center,
650 Harry Road
San Jose 95120
Received on Friday, 1 February 2002 19:48:31 UTC