- From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:24:16 -0800
- To: Rob McDougall <RMcDouga@JetForm.com>
- Cc: "'tvraman@almaden.ibm.com'" <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>, Micah Dubinko <MDubinko@cardiff.com>, "'gilescope@yahoo.co.uk'" <gilescope@yahoo.co.uk>, "'www-forms@w3.org'" <www-forms@w3.org>
yes --as you prove yourself below. >>>>> "Rob" == Rob McDougall <RMcDouga@JetForm.com> writes: Rob> Hmm, the fact that this editorial mistake was Rob> self-evident to someone outside the working group Rob> indicates to me that the max attribute itself is in Rob> fact simple and self-evident. Rob> It's interesting how one's predispositions can Rob> influence one's conclusions, isn't it? Rob> Rob Rob> -----Original Message----- From: T. V. Raman Rob> [mailto:tvraman@almaden.ibm.com] Sent: January 2, Rob> 2001 1:37 PM To: Micah Dubinko Cc: Rob> 'gilescope@yahoo.co.uk'; 'www-forms@w3.org' Rob> Subject: RE: Review of XForms working draft Rob> On 1: I would strongly advocate against our Rob> continuing to cook up our abbreviated versions of Rob> max-inclusive and friends. I believed this at the Rob> FTF --the review comments only strengthen this Rob> belief. Rob> We might well feel that max-inclusive etc are "too Rob> cmplex" according to some as yet undefined Rob> complexity measure; however we are not making Rob> things simpler by adding quirks of our own that Rob> appear "simpler" to us --the rest of the world will Rob> just remain confused. >>>>> "Micah" == Micah Dubinko <MDubinko@cardiff.com> writes: Micah> Giles, Thanks for your time and feedback. Micah> on 1) - I believe you are correct. Is this Micah> confusing enough that we should consider just Micah> leaving the inclusive/exclusive versions and skip Micah> the abbreviated one alltogether? Micah> on 2) - I like this idea. We will consider Micah> something along these lines for our ongoing Micah> research with the XForms Processing Model. Micah> Thanks! Micah> Micah Dubinko Co-editor, W3C XForms Working Group Micah> -----Original Message----- From: Giles Cope Micah> [mailto:gec@hyperoffice.com] Sent: Tuesday, Micah> January 02, 2001 4:37 AM To: www-forms@w3.org Micah> Subject: Review of XForms working draft Micah> 1. 'max' for Number should be short for Micah> maxInclusive not maxExclusive (and 'min' Micah> respectivly). Micah> 2. In 9.4: We do need a syntax to work on Micah> multiple models but, Micah> <xfm:textbox Micah> ref="instance::b/orderForm/shipTo/firstName"> Micah> but we loose the idea of the current context Micah> using this syntax, and have to specify everything Micah> from the root. Micah> We need something like: Micah> <xfm:textbox ref="instance::b./shipTo/firstName"> Micah> but obviously with better syntax. Maybe we could Micah> select the current context in the binding Micah> element: Micah> <xfm:bind> <xfm:select="orderForm/shipTo/"> Micah> <xfm:bind id="myfirstname" ref="firstName""/> Micah> <xfm:bind id="myaddresszip" ref="address/zip"/> Micah> </xfm:select> </xfm:bind> Micah> my two cents, gilescope@yahoo.co.uk Micah> ---------------------------------------------------------- Micah> "My sole reply," said he, "to that demand Is Micah> action; when a fit request is made Silence and Micah> deeds should follow out of hand." -- Virgil Micah> [Canto XXIV, 76] Rob> -- Best Regards, --raman Rob> ------------------------------------------------------------ Rob> IBM Research: Human Language Technologies Phone: 1 Rob> (408) 927 2608 Fax: 1 (408) 927 3012 Email: Rob> tvraman@us.ibm.com WWW: Rob> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/raman PGP: Rob> http://cs.cornell.edu/home/raman/raman.asc Snail: Rob> IBM Almaden Research Center, 650 Harry Road San Rob> Jose 95120 -- Best Regards, --raman ------------------------------------------------------------ IBM Research: Human Language Technologies Phone: 1 (408) 927 2608 Fax: 1 (408) 927 3012 Email: tvraman@us.ibm.com WWW: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/home/raman PGP: http://cs.cornell.edu/home/raman/raman.asc Snail: IBM Almaden Research Center, 650 Harry Road San Jose 95120
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