- From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:24:16 -0800
- To: Rob McDougall <RMcDouga@JetForm.com>
- Cc: "'tvraman@almaden.ibm.com'" <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>, Micah Dubinko <MDubinko@cardiff.com>, "'gilescope@yahoo.co.uk'" <gilescope@yahoo.co.uk>, "'www-forms@w3.org'" <www-forms@w3.org>
yes --as you prove yourself below.
>>>>> "Rob" == Rob McDougall <RMcDouga@JetForm.com> writes:
Rob> Hmm, the fact that this editorial mistake was
Rob> self-evident to someone outside the working group
Rob> indicates to me that the max attribute itself is in
Rob> fact simple and self-evident.
Rob> It's interesting how one's predispositions can
Rob> influence one's conclusions, isn't it?
Rob> Rob
Rob> -----Original Message----- From: T. V. Raman
Rob> [mailto:tvraman@almaden.ibm.com] Sent: January 2,
Rob> 2001 1:37 PM To: Micah Dubinko Cc:
Rob> 'gilescope@yahoo.co.uk'; 'www-forms@w3.org'
Rob> Subject: RE: Review of XForms working draft
Rob> On 1: I would strongly advocate against our
Rob> continuing to cook up our abbreviated versions of
Rob> max-inclusive and friends. I believed this at the
Rob> FTF --the review comments only strengthen this
Rob> belief.
Rob> We might well feel that max-inclusive etc are "too
Rob> cmplex" according to some as yet undefined
Rob> complexity measure; however we are not making
Rob> things simpler by adding quirks of our own that
Rob> appear "simpler" to us --the rest of the world will
Rob> just remain confused.
>>>>> "Micah" == Micah Dubinko <MDubinko@cardiff.com> writes:
Micah> Giles, Thanks for your time and feedback.
Micah> on 1) - I believe you are correct. Is this
Micah> confusing enough that we should consider just
Micah> leaving the inclusive/exclusive versions and skip
Micah> the abbreviated one alltogether?
Micah> on 2) - I like this idea. We will consider
Micah> something along these lines for our ongoing
Micah> research with the XForms Processing Model.
Micah> Thanks!
Micah> Micah Dubinko Co-editor, W3C XForms Working Group
Micah> -----Original Message----- From: Giles Cope
Micah> [mailto:gec@hyperoffice.com] Sent: Tuesday,
Micah> January 02, 2001 4:37 AM To: www-forms@w3.org
Micah> Subject: Review of XForms working draft
Micah> 1. 'max' for Number should be short for
Micah> maxInclusive not maxExclusive (and 'min'
Micah> respectivly).
Micah> 2. In 9.4: We do need a syntax to work on
Micah> multiple models but,
Micah> <xfm:textbox
Micah> ref="instance::b/orderForm/shipTo/firstName">
Micah> but we loose the idea of the current context
Micah> using this syntax, and have to specify everything
Micah> from the root.
Micah> We need something like:
Micah> <xfm:textbox ref="instance::b./shipTo/firstName">
Micah> but obviously with better syntax. Maybe we could
Micah> select the current context in the binding
Micah> element:
Micah> <xfm:bind> <xfm:select="orderForm/shipTo/">
Micah> <xfm:bind id="myfirstname" ref="firstName""/>
Micah> <xfm:bind id="myaddresszip" ref="address/zip"/>
Micah> </xfm:select> </xfm:bind>
Micah> my two cents, gilescope@yahoo.co.uk
Micah> ----------------------------------------------------------
Micah> "My sole reply," said he, "to that demand Is
Micah> action; when a fit request is made Silence and
Micah> deeds should follow out of hand." -- Virgil
Micah> [Canto XXIV, 76]
Rob> -- Best Regards, --raman
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