- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:07:07 +0200
- To: "www-font@w3.org" <www-font@w3.org>
Hello www-font,
Minutes of the 20 Oct WebFonts WG meeting at
http://www.w3.org/2010/10/20-webfonts-minutes.html
and below as text
WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
20 Oct 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2010Oct/0025.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/10/20-webfonts-irc
Attendees
Present
+1.206.324.aaaa, +1.443.895.aabb, +44.845.397.aacc, ChrisL,
+1.425.882.aadd, sylvaing, +1.250.668.aaee, +1.510.816.aaff,
sergeym, +1.978.790.aagg, John, cslye, tal, +1.415.738.aahh,
jdaggett
Regrets
Chair
Vlad
Scribe
Chris
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]lightning talk at tpac
2. [6]action items and spec state
3. [7]test suite plan
4. [8]agenda for f2f
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 20 October 2010
<jfkthame> Zakim: +44.845.397.aacc is jfkthame
<sylvaing> trackbot-ng, start telcon
<trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 20 October 2010
<scribe> Agenda:
[10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2010Oct/0
025.html
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2010Oct/0025.html
<scribe> Scribe: Chris
<scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL
lightning talk at tpac
Vlad: chris please explain what this is
ChrisL (explains lightning talks)
scribe: it would be on the wednesday
Vlad: how many there on weds?
<jdaggett> jdaggett, i will be
i will be
(discussion on whether weds is free or paying)
Vlad: cost goes up soon
ChrisL: its structured inter-group discussions
Vlad: was good last year, enlightening
cslye will be there mon-sun
jfkthame: will arrive weds afternoon or evening
Vlad: erik and tal will not be there
... had hoped jfkthame would be able to give the talk
ChrisL: happy to do it
<jdaggett> i second nominating chrisl
John: nominate chris
resolved: chris to do woff lightning talk at tpac
action items and spec state
Vlad: want to get to Last Call right after TPAC
... tends to get more comments once it goes to last call
ChrisL: yes
Vlad: final review at f2f and then publish right after
ChrisL: tpac a good time to discuss review time with other wgs
Vlad: ok so lets get loose ends tidied up before f2f
actions at [11]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open
[11] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open
John: were does the test suite fit in?
Vlad: after last call, next step is candidate rec and we need to
have a test suite to get out of CR (but not to enter it)
ChrisL: tests and last cal lcan proceed in parallel
action-15?
<trackbot> ACTION-15 -- Jonathan Kew to split intro to remove these
requirements and insert them into a new section, "normative
references" -- due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/15
[12] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/15
jfkthame: not done yet, ties to action-24
action-24?
<trackbot> ACTION-24 -- Jonathan Kew to work with Chris L on
reformatting footnotes section into normative and non normative
references -- due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/24
[13] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/24
ChrisL: jfkthame and i wil discuss this tomorrow
action-19?
<trackbot> ACTION-19 -- John Daggett to specify exact algorithm for
verifying a valid offset for metadata and private data of S3P5 --
due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/19
[14] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/19
jdaggett: mentioned onlast call that edited note sent out covers it,
so action can be closed.
close action-19
<trackbot> ACTION-19 Specify exact algorithm for verifying a valid
offset for metadata and private data of S3P5 closed
jfkthame: tightening up other points covered this as well
action-21?
<trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Chris Lilley to check that everything in
section 8 correctly references a conformance requirement earlier in
the spec. -- due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/21
[15] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/21
ChrisL: done that
close action-21
<trackbot> ACTION-21 Check that everything in section 8 correctly
references a conformance requirement earlier in the spec. closed
action-23?
<trackbot> ACTION-23 -- Jonathan Kew to verify whether, with zlib,
it's possible to have a stream that allows an EOF midstream, so
extra data can be padded on mid-stream. -- due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/23
[16] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/23
Vlad: we discussed possible EOF in mdstream, concluded there is no
such problem
jfkthame: not looked into this one, planned to do some zlib testing
with appended data
Vlad: ok keep this one open, no effect unless we find there is an
error case there
action-24?
<trackbot> ACTION-24 -- Jonathan Kew to work with Chris L on
reformatting footnotes section into normative and non normative
references -- due 2010-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/24
[17] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/24
Vlad: editorial
action-26?
<trackbot> ACTION-26 -- Jonathan Kew to section 6, license block:
change "The license for the font." to "The licensing information for
the font." -- due 2010-08-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/26
[18] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/26
its done, i see it in the new text
close action-26
<trackbot> ACTION-26 Section 6, license block: change "The license
for the font." to "The licensing information for the font." closed
action-27?
<trackbot> ACTION-27 -- Chris Lilley to write up a test suite plan
-- due 2010-08-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/27
[19] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/27
Vlad: keep open
ChrisL: would like some more discussion
action-29?
<trackbot> ACTION-29 -- John Hudson to review woff faq with chris
and vlad -- due 2010-10-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/29
[20] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/29
Vlad: progress, keep open
action-32?
<trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Chris Lilley to create a page for possible
agenda topics -- due 2010-10-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/32
[21] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/32
ChrisL: oops
<scribe> pending review
[22]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/pendingreview
[22] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/pendingreview
close action-28
<trackbot> ACTION-28 Add to section 8:"UA must reject the WOFF file
if the decompressed length of a table does not match that specified
in the table directory" closed
close action-30
<trackbot> ACTION-30 incorporate new propsed change proposed by
jdaggett closed
close action-31
<trackbot> ACTION-31 Add a link to the schema proposed by ChrisL
closed
test suite plan
<Vlad> ChrisL: test suite plan review
<Vlad> normative words are capitalized, should reflect that in the
reference to RFC
<Vlad> ChrisL email suggesting adding ids to the spec to mark up the
testable assertions in the spec
<Vlad> ChrisL: conflicting statements about table order and UA
handling
<Vlad> ChrisL: firm up the description of the procesing model to
make it more formal and strictly define the conformance criteria for
bit-to-bit compatible input and output SFNT files
<Vlad> This includes requirements for checksum correctness.
<Vlad> ACTION to ChirsL to write up the proposed text for WOFF
processing model
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
<Vlad> ACTION ChirsL to write up the proposed text for WOFF
processing model
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ChirsL
<Vlad> ACTION ChrisL to write up the proposed text for WOFF
processing model
<trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Write up the proposed text for WOFF
processing model [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-10-27].
<Vlad> discussion about whether SHOULD or MUST be used in the spec
wrt lang attribute for an element
<Vlad> Discussion about changing the 'id' attribute of uniqueID
element to avoid conflict with XML rules
<Vlad> The goal is for 'id' attributes not to be treated as an
element id.
<jfkthame> note that <license> element and subelements of
<extension> also have optional 'id' attributes
<scribe> ACTION: chris to add id and class to testable assertions
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2010/10/20-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Add id and class to testable
assertions [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-10-27].
<Vlad> ACTION Jonathan to add the language expalining that
attributes with 'id' as a name should not be treated as element ids.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-35 - Add the language expalining that
attributes with 'id' as a name should not be treated as element ids.
[on Jonathan Kew - due 2010-10-27].
agenda for f2f
<Vlad> discuss test suite plans
<jdaggett> i think we should also separate tests for tools from
tests for user agents
Vlad: quick spec review and decide to go to last call
... discussion on ac list, web page for people with spouses or other
significant others
... joint meetings?
... css clearly
... ensure test suites are complementary
<jdaggett> svg
<Vlad> Information about Lyon: [24]http://esw.w3.org/Discover_Lyon
[24] http://esw.w3.org/Discover_Lyon
Vlad: i18n clearly
<John>
[25]http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/10/web_fonts_will_fl
ourish
[25] http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/10/web_fonts_will_flourish
John: economist blog had a nice writeup
... primarily about woff
<Vlad>
[26]http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/10/web_fonts_will_fl
ourish
[26] http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/10/web_fonts_will_flourish
Vlad: brief meeting and action item review next week
<John> exit
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: chris to add id and class to testable assertions
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2010/10/20-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
--
Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain
W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
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