[D3E] minutes from 17 June 2014 call

The minutes from the June 17 D3E call are in the following (and copied 
below):

   <http://www.w3.org/2014/06/18-webapps-minutes.html>

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  DOM 3 Events Call


    18 Jun 2014

See also:IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2014/06/18-webapps-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    Travis, +1.425.936.aaaa, garykac, masayuki
Regrets
Chair
    SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
    garykac


    Contents

  * Topics <http://www.w3.org/2014/06/18-webapps-minutes.html#agenda>
  * Summary of Action Items
    <http://www.w3.org/2014/06/18-webapps-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<Travis> I will need to make this a short call, as I have to run 
somewhere in 20 minutes...

<Travis>http://status.modern.ie/

<masayuki> Travis: I see, no problem.

I updated chromestatus.com with info about Chrome's status

I also put in IE and FF info as far as I could.

code:http://www.chromestatus.com/features/5228092293382144

key:http://www.chromestatus.com/features/4748790720364544

For UIEvents, IE's status page has "Identify the physical key being 
pressed; Query key from layout.", which is the old content that I wrote 
for chromestatus and is no longer valid.

UIEvents no longer has |code|

For chromestatus, I update the UIEVent 
entry:http://www.chromestatus.com/features/5593215650496512

To cover just the locale and queryKeyCap stuff

<Travis> That's great. Thanks!

<masayuki> Firefox will rename KeyboardEvent.key value in 33 or 34 for 
comforming the latest spec. We're discussing the timing.

<masayuki>https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar33 will be 
released mid-October, 34 will be released late November

<Travis> Super!

Masayuki:is the best place to get FF status on MDN? Is there anything 
equivalent to chromestatus.com or status.modern.ie?

<Travis> I landed a change for bug 
26019:https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/rev/8034c1f1c711

<Travis> Would love your review.

<masayuki> garykac: When *I* work on the new feature, I update or create 
the MDN document. Therefore, I can yes for D3E feature.

I noticed that it was pretty accurate for |key| and |code|. Thank you 
for keeping it updated.

<masayuki> garykac: no problem. If you want to confirm the mapping with 
actual code, you can see...

<masayuki> key 
mapping:http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/shared/NativeKeyToDOMKeyName.h

<masayuki> code 
mapping:http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/shared/NativeKeyToDOMCodeName.h

<Travis> I need to take off now. Let's meet again on July 8th. (Two week 
break.)

So, we're skipping the next two weeks. Sounds good.

I don't have much this week.

<masayuki> Travis: Okay.

<Travis> See you all later!

<masayuki> See you.

But hopefully we can start talking about testing then.

<masayuki> garykac: could you check 
this?https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24739#c7

just a sec

<Travis> RRSAgent: please make the minutes

<masayuki> garykac: later is okay for reply of it.

If the Sun keyboard has two separate keys, then yes we should have two 
separate |code| values.

<masayuki> garykac: Yeah, it has.

So the Sun keyboard has separate "ContextMenu" and "Props" keys?

Where is the ContextMenu key located?

I'm looking at:http://iichan.hk/s/src/1355938735862.jpg

<masayuki> Wait a moment, I confirm it.

<masayuki> The "Compose" key is the "ContextMenu" key. Located below the 
"RightShift" and left of "AltGraph" key.

<masayuki> I confirmed on Japanese Sun keyboard, though.

OK. So that key is labelled "Compose" on all the Sun keyboard that I 
found (Keyboard Type 5, 6 & 7)

<masayuki> Yeah, my Sun keyboard is probably 7.

I think that key is probably better named "Compose" since it is Sun 
specific and the Sun keyboard doesn't have the same keys on the bottom 
row. I'll need to add images of the Sun keyboard.

<masayuki> Hmm, but we cannot distinguish whether the keyboard type is 
Sun or not.

Does "compose" use the same USB code as the Context Menu key?

<masayuki> The "Compose" key is just recycles the "ContextMenu"'s 
scancode :-(

OK.

<masayuki> garykac: yes.

Then ContextMenu is the best choice.

I'll add a note under ContextMenu that the the Sun "Compose" key should 
use this |code|.

<masayuki> I agree.

So, the bottom row of the Sun keyboard would be: CapsLock, AltLeft, 
OSLeft, Space, OSRight, ContextMenu, AltRight

sgtm. Thanks for catching that -- I'll have to dig up a Sun keyboard for 
testing.

<masayuki> Yes, the mapping is right.

Great.

Anyway, I have to run now. I'll talk to you in a few weeks.

<masayuki> Okay, see you.

I'll fix this bug in the next few days.

<masayuki> Thanks in advance!

<ArtB> Title: DOM 3 Events Call


    Summary of Action Items

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Received on Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:58:45 UTC