RE: proposal: add input/keyboard locale to text and keyboard events

Hi Aharon,

 

I'd like to throw in some comments/questions here, but I'm inclined to want to copy in the i18n WG.  Is that ok?  (I can't actually see how I received this message.)

 

Cheers,

RI

 

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From: Aharon (Vladimir) Lanin [mailto:aharon@google.com] 
Sent: 04 July 2010 11:10
To: www-dom@w3.org; Doug Schepers
Subject: proposal: add input/keyboard locale to text and keyboard events

 

Pierre Cadieux, Hirinori Bono and I would like to propose the following i18n addition to the TextEvent and KeyboardEvent DOM3 interfaces:

A new property indicating the locale of the keyboard or other input device using which the input was generated.

In both event types, this should be a string (e.g. "en-US"), and can be null when unknown (e.g. when the input method is paste). In the TextEvent interface, the new property could be called inputLocale. In the KeyboardEvent interface, it could be called keyboardLocale or perhaps just locale.

Use case 1: smart quotes in script-based online editor / word processor.

Different languages use different opening and closing quotation mark characters (e.g. U+201C (“) and U+201D (”) in English, U+00AB («) and U+00BB (») in French, and U+201E („) and U+201C (“) in German), but their standard keyboards rarely allocate keys for them. Thus, word processors typically implement a "smart quote" feature that replaces ASCII quote characters typed by the user with the opening and closing quotation marks appropriate for the document language. Since users rarely want to bother setting a document language, and can use different languages in a single document, word processor programs often the keyboard language as the basis for deciding which quotation marks to use. This is currently not possible for online editors, since they do not know which keyboard is being used to generate input.

Use case 2: text direction in script-based online editor / word processor.

Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, and other languages are written right-to-left. However, it is common for right-to-left documents to contain some left-to-right words (e.g. acronyms like "HTML"), phrases (like the title of a foreign-language article), and paragraphs (like an extended quote from a foreign-language article). Although the Unicode Bidi Algorithm provides a default way to display a mixture of left-to-right and right-to-left text without explicit indication of a paragraph's direction, or where the text direction inside a paragraph changes or reverts, this is heuristic and often insufficient to display bidi text as intended. Full-featured word processors (online and otherwise) therefore typically allow the user to indicate the paragraph direction using a UI control. However, the user experience of having to both click on the direction control and change the keyboard language when needing to switch between different-direction languages is problematic, since users very often forget to do one or the other. It is therefore desirable for a word processor to provide a reasonable default for paragraph direction based on the direction of the first character entered by the user. To allow the same approach for paragraphs that begin with numbers, neutral characters, and whitespace, however, what one really wants is an indication of the language of the keyboard (or other input method) used to generate the first character. The same technique is even more useful for direction changes inside a paragraph, since word processors rarely provide an explicit means of indicating them, and they often need to begin with a number or end in punctuation (e.g. closing a parenthetical expression begun in the middle of the opposite-direction phrase) - examples of cases where the Unicode Bidi Algorithm does not do a good enough job.

Aharon Lanin

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