- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:12:18 -0400
- To: "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-minutes.html
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
07 Apr 2010
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-irc
Attendees
Present
Shepazu, Olli_Pettay, [Microsoft]
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Travis
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Click issue
2. [5]i18n
3. [6]DOM Views
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 07 April 2010
<smaug> [8]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556493
[8] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556493
<smaug> Travis:
[9]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556493
[9] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556493
<scribe> Scribe: Travis
<scribe> ScribeNick: Travis
Click issue
smaug: if mousedown happens in different node then the mouseup
event, then the click event does not fire.
... This is underspecified today.
... One of the nodes (the mousedown) is a textnode.
shepazu: From accessibility point-of-view, not firing click can be
problemantic, especially if there is considerable mouse
shaking/movement.
<shepazu>
[10]http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Event
s.html#events-mouseevent-event-order
[10]
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-mouseevent-event-order
The bug reproduction is here:
[11]https://bug556493.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=436452
[11] https://bug556493.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=436452
shepazu: We can add an example to section 5.2.3.2 under the click
event to clarify the sentence "The click event may be preceded by
the mousedown and mouseup events on the same element"
Travis: IE8 and 9 do not manifest this bug.
<shepazu> ACTION: shepazu to add an example to section 5.2.3.2 under
the click event to clarify the sentence "The click event may be
preceded by the mousedown and mouseup events on the same element"
[recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-516 - Add an example to section 5.2.3.2
under the click event to clarify the sentence "The click event may
be preceded by the mousedown and mouseup events on the same element"
[on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-14].
shepazu: Everyone in agreement then?
smaug: Yes.
Travis: Yes.
i18n
<shepazu>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JanMar/0051.html
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JanMar/0051.html
Travis: I agree with the points 2-4 in full.
smaug: Yes, I also agree with those.
... What are the other comments?
Travis: Does this impact DocumentEvent:convertKeyValue?
shepazu: Not directly, but I was hoping for some review on this from
i18n...
... convertKeyValue is generic; it takes any string (e.g, "U+571",
"{", etc.) and converts to any of the four output key types.
... It has utility, but DOM Events may not be the right time/place
for this API.
... Example, could provide "DEL" and it would spit out the delete
character key (in unicode or some other format).
Travis: From a testing perspective, this might be hard to
effectively test because of the large class of inputs/outputs.
shepazu: I think I will go ahead and drop this API from the spec.
Resolution: Drop convertKeyValue from DOM Events
DOM Views
<shepazu> [14]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9336
[14] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9336
Travis: This seems to center around our UIEvent having a "view"
property
<smaug>
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Views-20001113/views.h
tml
[15]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Views-20001113/views.html
shepazu: Implementors implement the view as a Window.
<kenneth> smaug, there has been some talk about moving vm-i (view
mode interface from Widgets 1.0) to CSSOM, so maybe the viewMode
property should be moved to DOM-Level-2-Views?
<smaug> kenneth: move something to DOM-Level-2-Views?
<smaug> that is a very old spec
<kenneth> is there a newer spec for dom views?
<smaug> no
shepazu: In the glossary (section 2) the definition of defaultView
seems very adaquate and addresses the concept of window as we read
in the feedback.
<kenneth> smaug, ah there is the
[16]http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Views/
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Views/
<smaug> kenneth: I doubt anyone has worked on that Note for ages
<scribe> ACTION: smaug Ask for rationale on UIEvent "view" property
feedback and send to www-dom and public-html [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-517 - Ask for rationale on UIEvent "view"
property feedback and send to www-dom and public-html [on Olli
Pettay - due 2010-04-14].
<smaug> [18]http://limi.net/articles/resource-packages
[18] http://limi.net/articles/resource-packages
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: shepazu to add an example to section 5.2.3.2 under the
click event to clarify the sentence "The click event may be preceded
by the mousedown and mouseup events on the same element" [recorded
in [19]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: smaug Ask for rationale on UIEvent "view" property
feedback and send to www-dom and public-html [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-webapps-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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