- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:16:13 -0500
- To: "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
Hi, DOM3 Events fans-
The minutes for the DOM3 Events telcon of 18 Nov 2009:
http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-webapps-minutes.html
Or as text below:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
18 Nov 2009
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-webapps-irc
Attendees
Present
[Microsoft], [IPcaller], Shepazu
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Travis
Contents
* [3]Topics
* [4]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 18 November 2009
Travis: Talked to some folks about element-level resize (layout
engineers) and based on layout complexity and potential spec
vagueness (plus other browsers don't support this), I'd like to not
spec this behavior as part of DOM L3 Events.
... Suggested change to spec for resize: proximal event target =
Window (only)
... Wanting to ensure Wiki access to create strawman proposal for
Faster Mutation Events (discussed with Jonas at TPAC 2009).
... verified that I do have editing access :)
... Got feedback from Microsoft's Office Web Companions: they wanted
to have a keyboard language hint for internationalization features
(spell/grammer).
... Makes more sense for compositionend events (which tend to be
langauge specific).
shepazu: Side conversation on shortcomings of not having physical
key layout information.
... (re-)discovered keyValues for copy/paste/cut, which solves some
common use cases.
... 2 key down sequence: CTRL keyValue + C [key], results in a
KeyDown{keyValue:"Control"}, KeyDown{keyValue:"Copy"}
Travis: "Labled keys" on my keyboard (Control Key combos):
SelectAll, Find, Cut, Copy, Paste, Bold, Underline, Italic
... Non-Function keys (share keyspace as F1-F12): Help, Undo, Redo,
New, Open, Close, Reply, Fwd, Send, Spell, Save, Print
(Travis/Olli to think about this)
Last topic: DOMActivate...
Scenario-- user tabs to a link and press enter/space. Event sequence
is {KeyboardEvent -> MouseEvent (click) -> Event (DOMActivate).
scribe: So this is legacy behavior.
... We can't change this.
... It seems like DOMActivate and click have roughly the same
meaning.
... I'll be radical: Let's consider deprecating (like the mutation
events) DOMActivate. In its place, make 'click' the new DOMActivate!
shepazu: We need to run this by the accessibility community to make
sure we're not missing anything.
... Intuition tells me that deprecating DOMActivate will simplify
web application development and actually make it simpler to make
accessible web applications.
<smaug> [5]http://www.w3.org/TR/progress-events/
[5] http://www.w3.org/TR/progress-events/
<smaug>
[6]http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/ns
Document.cpp#6145
[6]
http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp#6145
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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Received on Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:16:24 UTC