- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:23:52 -0400
- To: "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-minutes.html
Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
14 Oct 2009
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-irc
Attendees
Present
Shepazu, smaug, Travis
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Travis
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]timestamps
2. [5]Defining Events in DOM3 Events
3. [6]WebIDL for DOM L3 Events.
4. [7]Last Call Timeline?
5. [8]New sections to the spec
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 14 October 2009
<smaug> uh, only 1.47€ in my skype account
<smaug> I hope that is enough
<smaug> it should be
<smaug> [10]http://mozilla.pettay.fi/moztests/timestamp.html
[10] http://mozilla.pettay.fi/moztests/timestamp.html
<smaug> Hi Travis
Sorry, I'm late...
<scribe> scribeNick: Travis
timestamps
<scribe> scribe: Travis
<smaug>
[11]http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Events-20001113/ecma-s
cript-binding.html
[11]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-DOM-Level-2-Events-20001113/ecma-script-binding.html
All browsers (but perhaps Chrome?) use a number (rather than a Date
object).
<shepazu> [[
<shepazu> timeStamp of type DOMTimeStamp, readonly
<shepazu> Used to specify the time (in milliseconds relative to the
epoch) at which the event was created. Due to the fact that some
systems may not provide this information the value of timeStamp may
be not available for all events. When not available, a value of 0
will be returned. Examples of epoch time are the time of the system
start or 0:0:0 UTC 1st January 1970.
<shepazu> ]]
<shepazu> [[
<shepazu> timeStamp
<shepazu> This read-only property is a Date object.
<shepazu> ]]
Probably relying on it as a sequence (for primitive ordering)
Can always new Date();
shepazu: Has been metioned that it's complicated for implementors to
return a Date.
<smaug> new Date(event.timeStamp);
smaug: Can always convert timeStamp to date.
shepazu: Since IE is not supporting this, there's likely little
compat impact to tightening up the spec.
... Could strip out the clause that allows zero.
<scribe> ACTION: shepazu to add "should" clause to make the
timestamp an Epoch string of type Number (in the ECMAScript
binding). [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-417 - Add "should" clause to make the
timestamp an Epoch string of type Number (in the ECMAScript
binding). [on Doug Schepers - due 2009-10-21].
Defining Events in DOM3 Events
E.g., like the Progress Events 1.0 spec by Chaals?
shepazu: Sync and Async? SVG is just adding this concept.
I have to do this anyway... I may be able to provide this detail
before November.
shepazu: Regarding the algorithms of when to fire, that seems very
host-language specific.
... sync/async, seems like a good idea to add to the spec.
<scribe> ACTION: Travis to provide async/ sync data based on browser
testing [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-418 - Provide async/ sync data based on
browser testing [on Travis Leithead - due 2009-10-21].
shepazu: Event flow diagrams to be added to spec soon.
... some combinations will be tricky.
WebIDL for DOM L3 Events.
Travis: Will DOM L3 Events support WebIDL syntax on its IDL blocks?
shepazu: Sam Wenieg will be co-editing WebIDL as Cameron finishes
his disseration.
er, dissertation
shepazu: Common myth that you can't go to Rec with a normative
reference to a non-Rec spec. Actually not true, but requires greater
scrutiny.
... We could "safely" use WebIDL in our spec.
Last Call Timeline?
shepazu: What do people think about targeting last call for
November?
... Have solicited early comments from other working groups to try
to mitigate issues at Last Call.
New sections to the spec
shepazu: Added a section on conformance criteria
... Also a section on feature detection based on hasFeature
... Can you folks look this over and give me feedback?
Cameron and other have already provided feedback. Seems OK so far.
<shepazu> trackbot, make minutes
<trackbot> Sorry, shepazu, I don't understand 'trackbot, make
minutes'. Please refer to [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
for help
[14] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: shepazu to add "should" clause to make the timestamp
an Epoch string of type Number (in the ECMAScript binding).
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Travis to provide async/ sync data based on browser
testing [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-webapps-minutes.html#action02]
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