- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:04:49 -0700
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Cc: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+fm5yJ5r5JdCtxusLjdjUEVuoXH3kBMrnyOPPQNaF98Hw@mail.gmail.com>
For what it's worth, I did not interpret Ian's original remark as saying he didn't follow W3C process; though I can see how someone may have parsed it in that fashion. In the original thread, nobody was claiming or denying following accepted W3C process. Rather, I was suggesting that certain clauses in the process document be referenced in a proposed warning to add to the DOM2 spec(s). I continue to feel that approach is warranted and consistent with similar statements of status found elsewhere in W3C specs. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Jeff Jaffe wrote: > > > > 2. Nonetheless, for situations that he is wearing his hat as Editor > within a > > W3C Working Group, he agrees to follow the W3C Process. > > My original statement was: "Nobody really follows the W3C process. Some > claim to, others (such as myself) do not." > > To be more explicit: Nobody always follows the W3C process. Some claim to, > others do not claim to. I do not claim to. Those who claim to tend to > bring up the process when it helps their political needs, and ignore it > when that is more convenient. Those who do not claim to tend to argue for > their cases on technical merit instead. Bjoern has in the past written > long missives documenting the many ways that people who claim to follow > the process blithely ignore it when it's convenient. > > That isn't to say that everything I do violates the W3C process. On the > contrary, sometimes I follow it more closely than W3C staff (e.g. the > process requires chaters to describe the milestones for deliverables; W3C > staff usually instead write woefully optimistic fiction even when I have > provided them with realistic predictions). > > I do not agree to follow the W3C process blindly. > > I follow it, like everyone else, exactly to the extent that I think it > requires us to do the right thing for the Web. When the process requires > us to do something bad for the Web, I ignore it. > > (This is why, for example, I do not participate in the work required to > make copies of the specs I work on for the TR/ page.) > >
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