- From: Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu <kennyluck@csail.mit.edu>
- Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:22:33 +0800
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- CC: W3C Public Archive <www-archive@w3.org>
I hope you don't mind getting yet another response, and I hope I am not harming the Web by wasting your time ;) Thoughts/Rationale: * As a non-native English speaker, I find "h" for hours, "m" for minutes and so on a bit unfamiliar. I would prefer a way that allows the more common [hh]:[mm]:[ss] practice. The ISO 8601 "PT[hh]:[mm]:[ss]" seems odd too so I guess another attribute for duration as stated on [1] would work for me, although I can't guarantee if spelling "duration" is actually easier than using "m" and "s". Anyway, a string like "3m20s" doesn't show up in real world UI and "3:20" is obviously more common. [1] http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Time_element#duration * For the majority of use cases there will be less than 4 components and I don't think "1h20m10s" is any less readable than "1h 20m 10s", and "3m20s" looks better to me than "3m 20s". Therefore, I am against intervening spaces. * I am against non-single-letter abbreviations. I don't want to have trouble thinking which one of "hours" and "hour" is right. * I would prefer the following heuristic for "month" and "minutes" disambiguation (for non ISO 8601 string only): 1. For a "m", If there's a "y" before it or there's a "w", "d", "h" or another "m" after it. Then "m" is for "month" (so you can do "1y3m" or "1m10d") 2. Otherwise "m" is for "minutes" (I heard the rumor that Microsoft uses "M" for month and "m" for minutes, so I guess this needs some input from them) * I don't yet see the value of conformance-parsing mismatch here and I don't know who'll implement "parse a duration string" either. I'll mark non-conforming duration string as having no meaning for now. Results (my results in parenthesis): <time datetime="P1MT1M"> Conformance: yes, conforming Meaning: 1 month, 60 seconds <time datetime="P.1S"> Conformance: no, found "." where expected digit Meaning: none <time datetime="P1 S"> Conformance: no, unexpected white space Meaning: 1 second (noneļ¼ <time datetime="1H"> Conformance: yes, conforming Meaning: 3600 seconds <time datetime="1 H"> Conformance: yes, conforming (no, unexpected white space) Meaning: 3600 seconds (none) <time datetime="1h"> Conformance: yes, conforming Meaning: (3600 seconds) <time datetime="1 h"> Conformance: yes, conforming (no, unexpected white space) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1HOUR"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1hour"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1D1H"> Conformance: yes, conforming Meaning: 90000 seconds <time datetime="1D 1H"> Conformance: (no, unexpected white space) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1 D 1 H"> Conformance: (no, unexpected white space) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1mo1min"> Conformance: yes, conforming (no, more than one letter) Meaning: 1 month, 60 seconds (none) <time datetime="1mon"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1min"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1mont"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1minutes"> Conformance: (no, more than one letter) Meaning: (none) <time datetime="1Y1M"> Conformance: (yes, conforming) Meaning: (13 months) <time datetime="1H1M"> Conformance: (yes, conforming) Meaning: (3660 seconds) Cheers, Kenny
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