- From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
- Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:36:46 +0100
- To: www-archive@w3.org
Hi. I was going through the HTML Tidy bug tracker to check for requests for "HTML5" support and came across a request for "RDFa" support. Now, seven years ago when the RDFa effort started, I learned that the task force at the time wasn't interested in solving problems people had with meta data in "HTML" documents and they did not care about engaging with the community, and their proposals fell short of meeting even the few goals they managed for formulate. It was obvious that eventually some people would actually seek to work with actual authors to find a good solution to actual problems (you know, nobody's losing sleep over "Oh no, I can't use HTML syntax to express RDF!"), so I suggested to start over and look at requirements and use cases before discussing the finer points around bnodes and reification, as otherwise the thing is pretty much doomed to fail. Anyway, what the heck, if it's easy to add support, I might just give it a go. So I tried to find the latest documents. The group in charge appears to have published no technical reports in almost six months. I then looked for the mandatory public status report that would explain the failure to publish on the group home page and their mailing list. I found none, in fact the mailing list didn't cover RDFa issues in the past couple of months at all, and the group home page notes on the schedule, "Note: Dates are based on a charter starting in February 2010. The group will document significant changes from this initial schedule on the group home page." which it hasn't done, assuming that a slip of at least 9 months is significant for a group chartered for 18 months. Links to their "agenda" for instance on http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/ do not even work, and ooh, aparently there is another list for the group, while the charter says "This group primarily conducts its work on the public mailing list public-rdfa@w3.org (with a publicly visible archive)." linking to the right archive, but the homepage links to the public-rdfa-wg mailing list where there are some signs of life. But no obvious "public status report with rationale why a new draft has not been published" that I could see there either. Anyway, I've spent more time now trying to learn the status of "RDFa" in its various incarnations than it would likely have taken to add support for it to HTML Tidy, so I will cut my losses here and let some- one else figure this out in the odd event this Working Group manages to produce anything. Ah, as I am on it, I might aswell check if my old heartbeat script is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2006Aug/0010.html still working. Apparently so, these groups would appear to be late: * SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group * Protocols and Formats Working Group * Web Notification Working Group * Media Fragments Working Group * XML Processing Model Working Group * Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group * Points of Interest Working Group * RDF Web Applications Working Group * XSLT Working Group * XML Query Working Group * Geolocation Working Group * Media Annotations Working Group * User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group * Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group * XML Schema Working Group * WebFonts Working Group That's every other working group failing to meet one of the most basic MUST-level Process requirements, and more in total than when I made the script. The winner here hasn't published anything in over a year. Maybe the six comments on their only specification overwhelmed them? regards, -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
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