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Fwd: Re: Can a CR be published as a PR if one of its Normative references is a CR?

From: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:00:37 -0400
Message-ID: <4C2A26B5.8060408@nokia.com>
To: "'www-archive'" <www-archive@w3.org>
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: Can a CR be published as a PR if one of its Normative 
references is a CR?
Date: 	Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:35:00 +0200
From: 	ext Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
To: 	Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) <Art.Barstow@nokia.com>
CC: 	team-webapps, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, Marcos Caceres 
<marcosc@opera.com>, Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>, w3c-archive

On 23 Jun 2010, at 11:35 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

>  Hi All,
>  My understanding is that after a CR passes all of its exit criteria,
>  it could be published as a PR if all of the CRs normative
>  dependencies were at least CRs. This PR would then be parked in PR
>  until every dependency was at least at PR.
>  The specific case that led to my understanding is the MWBP spec that
>  was published as a PR on 2-Nov-2006 but did not advance to REC until
>  29-Jul-2008, while the MWBP PR waited for XHTML Basic 1.1 to advance.
>  However, based on some recent discussions, where the context is the
>  Widget Packaging and Configuration CR, my understanding may be
>  wrong, i.e. this CR shall not be published as a PR until all of its
>  normative references are also at least PR.
>  Would some please clarify this?

Let me know if this helps:

Q. Can my spec advance to REC if I have normative refs to drafts?

A. There is no absolute rule here. The WG makes a proposal (via the
spec) that the community reviews as part of the Rec track. Our
transition process has a reporting requirement, so the Director is
aware of references to unstable material. See http://www.w3.org/Guide/transitions
   for more information.

Other notes:

   * It is nonetheless considered "unwise" to refer to unstable
material. So we recommend against it.
   * There are differing opinions on whether we should publish PRs and
park them while references mature. Recently (with CSS3 selectors [1])
we made a decision to leave the thing at PR while references mature
BUT we also told the community that the spec was "Approved" as a Rec
but delayed [2]. The spec sets a similar expectation.

   _ Ian

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/PR-css3-selectors-20091215/
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2010AprJun/0014.html

Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
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