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RE: recent email related to issues

From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:32:31 -0700
To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>
CC: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, "julian.reschke@gmx.de" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "benoit.piette@gmail.com" <benoit.piette@gmail.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>
Message-ID: <C68CB012D9182D408CED7B884F441D4D4E5450DF@nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com>
There was a poll. I responded to the poll, as I thought
it was the responsibility of active working group members to respond
to polls.  Following the instructions, I added an opinion which I didn't
believe had already been expressed.

Normally, I expect working group "Last Call" happens when the working group 
is in agreement that the spec has no known addressable technical flaws.
If last call is to happen soon, then removing things with known technical
flaws, or moving them to a separate spec with a different schedule,
would be appropriate.  That was what I believed the nature of my 
argument was. 

I don't see any reason to "withdraw" my response to the poll, but
I have no problem with people making a decision after actually
reading what I said (rather than, say, coming to some bizarre 
conclusion based on a partial reading, or inferring some malicious

However, if you, the chairs, the staff, or anyone want to make a 
decision to do something else, based on your collective best judgment,
I have no intention of objecting to anything. In particular, I have
no intent of objecting if you, in your collective judgment, wish
to withdraw the proposal to remove these elements at this time.


-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:39 AM
To: Shelley Powers
Cc: Laura Carlson; julian.reschke@gmx.de; benoit.piette@gmail.com; Larry Masinter; Leif Halvard Silli
Subject: Re: recent email related to issues

Shelley Powers, Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:15:19 -0500:
> I know my recent email to the W3C co-chairs was probably a shock, and 
> I apologize for that.
> After the discussion with figure and aside, though, I believe that 
> the issues associated with the elements will become more apparent 
> once the browser vendors attempt to implement these items. Right now, 
> we're primarily arguing for or against abstracts, and abstracts can 
> make difficult discussion points.
> If the browser companies are willing to expend effort for something 
> that may end up being pulled eventually, I do see any harm in letting 
> them do so. This does not mean the items will remain in the released 
> version of HTML5.
> Again, if any of you object to me pulling any of my change proposals, 
> I won't.

Hi Shelley - I concur with the view that you expressed in that letter, 
that it was «too early» to file those change proposals. And I am 
therefore totally OK with you dropping any or all of the change 

Best regards,
Leif H
Received on Thursday, 17 June 2010 16:33:47 UTC

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