- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:51:46 -0500
- To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
- CC: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
Larry Masinter wrote: > Thanks for the history! > >> The current state, as I understand it, is that the WG has concurrence by >> the Director for over two years to include Immediate Mode Graphics and >> canvas element. > > I think your opinion is clear, and I disagree > whatever discussions that took place then > (whether it was a 'decision') covered the > current question, which is to FPWD Canvas 2D > as a separate document in this working group. > > As a courtesy to you, I've included you in the > conversation, but I don't expect to convince > you. I will confess that I don't fully understand your position then. As I see it, a topic is either in scope or out of scope for a given working group. Splitting a topic that is in scope for a given working group out into a separate document doesn't make the topic potentially suddenly out of scope. The three current chairs, as well as PLH, had this specific discussion with T-BL, and he not only didn't have any concern over splitting the spec up, he positively encouraged us. > Larry > -- > http://larry.masinter.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net] > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:56 AM > To: Larry Masinter > Cc: Anne van Kesteren; Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org); Philippe Le Hegaret; www-archive; Maciej Stachowiak; Paul Cotton; Manu Sporny > Subject: Re: Documents not in scope for HTML-WG > > Larry Masinter wrote: >> I know the working group decided that two years ago! >> >> However, Working Groups do not have the authority to change >> their charter. The charter is established by the director >> after discussion by the AC. The AC discussion explicitly >> removed 2D graphics from the charter, if you look at the >> record, there was an earlier draft of the charter with >> 2D graphics that was explicitly removed. >> >> So, it's fine. I'm not bringing this up in the working >> group because the working group decision was clear. >> >> I think it would be fine to update the charter to include >> 2D Context as actually within scope if that's what the >> working group proposes and the Director and AC agree. > > That, too, was discussed. See issue 38: > > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/38?changelog > >> I wouldn't object to that. >> >> But the W3C AC actually discusses charters, comes to >> agreement about scope, and the discussions about charter >> scope are intense, careful, and the wordings chosen >> carefully. Companies decide whether or not to join a >> working group and who to send as representatives based >> on what the charter says. >> >> So my point stands: whether or not the working group >> decided to include this material, it is out of scope >> for the current charter. > > The current state, as I understand it, is that the WG has concurrence by > the Director for over two years to include Immediate Mode Graphics and > canvas element. > >> Larry >> -- >> http://larry.masinter.net > > - Sam Ruby > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:annevk@opera.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM >> To: Larry Masinter; Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org); Philippe Le Hegaret >> Cc: www-archive; Maciej Stachowiak; Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby; Manu Sporny >> Subject: Re: Documents not in scope for HTML-WG >> >> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:16:43 +0100, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> >> wrote: >>> None of RDFa, Microdata or 2D Context, are in scope for the current >>> HTML working group charter. >> Well, at least for 2D Context the Working Group decided over two years ago >> that it is: >> >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/15 >> >> > >
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