- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:29:01 -0500
- To: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
- cc: eric@w3.org, www-archive@w3.org
I've got the copy-to-wiki 90% automated.
I ran it to produce
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Chatlog_2009-03-03
and then made a "Present:" line by hand, based on what Zakim said.
Several names still don't match; I'd imagine Participants2 is missing
some folks. Let me know how it goes.
-- Sandro
> Sandro Hawke wrote:
> > [cc'd www-archive, in case others get interested]
>
> Great.
>
> > [You write about perhaps using the scribe tools OWL-WG is using]
> >
> > Sure, I'd be happy to have you guys as the second users. (Eric just
> > grabbed me in the hall to talk about it.)
> >
> > Is your wiki up and running?
>
> Yes, it's at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/ though it's still sparse.
>
> > Where in web space do you want minutes to appear?
> >
> > For OWL, the chatlogs, which start as IRC logs and are then cleaned up
> > are named like:
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Chatlog_2009-02-23
> >
> > and the formatted minutes are named like this:
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/meeting/2009-02-23
>
> We're pretty much duplicating the Web-space structure that OWL WG is
> using, so I'd imagine chat logs at:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Chatlog_%yyyy-%mm-%dd
>
> with formatted minutes at:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/%yyyy-%mm-%dd
>
> I was a bit confused by
> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Minutes_Review_Conventions which
> suggests that the minutes are on the wiki and editable by any WG member
> when, in fact, that's not the case?
>
> > You'll also need a wiki page like:
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Participants2
> >
> > which doesn't exactly match the other databases of participants because:
> > - it needs to list all the irc names used for people which
> > can not be derived by the algorithm
> > - it needs to list everyone who has attended any meeting,
> > including guests and part-participants
>
> OK, I have an initial stab at this at:
>
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Participants2
>
> > (One of the current bugs in the system is around the handling of the
> > participant list. The list really needs to have a transaction-log
> > style, so that we can tell who the participants (really "attendees")
> > were at any given point in time. If that list changes later, then a
> > name might BECOME ambiguous after-the-fact, which would make old minutes
> > harder to work with. So, for now you can use the Participants2 style,
> > and expect at some point we'll have to upgrade this to a transaction-log
> > style.)
>
> OK.
>
> Out first meeting's logs were at
>
> http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc.txt
> http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html
>
> What next? :)
>
> Lee
>
> > BTW, the script has a clear object model of MeetingEvents which could be
> > dumped in RDF/XML easily. I was going to dump them all into virtuoso at
> > one point, but never quite got there. Of course I'm not sure it would
> > be socially good to have it easy to datamine the meeting records.
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