RE: URGENT: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Seeking earlier feedback from MS]

Yes, there is one.

From: Art.Barstow@nokia.com [mailto:Art.Barstow@nokia.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:25 AM
To: Chris Wilson; mike@w3.org
Cc: Sunava Dutta; Michael Champion; rigo@w3.org; chaals@opera.com; schepers@w3.org; www-archive@w3.org
Subject: RE: URGENT: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Seeking earlier feedback from MS]


Because Micrsoft already created a PDF version, right? (I don't have acess to the list archive ATM to confirm.)

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Chris Wilson
Sent: 2008-06-13 1:20:03 pm
To: ext Chris Wilson;Michael(tm) Smith
Cc: Barstow Art (Nokia-OCTO/Boston);Sunava Dutta;Michael Champion;Rigo Wenning;Charles McCathieNevile;Doug Schepers;www-archive@w3.org
Subject: RE: URGENT: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier     feedback  from MS]


Neither of those were points I was contending.  I expected it to get posted directly to the list; sorry it didn't.  Dunno what the click-thru license was about.  Sunava owns fixing.

I asked specifically why a PROPRIETARY format copy of the document was being requested (by Art).  I'd expect HTML, personally, not plaintext;  I don't quite understand why we can't at least agree on HTML4.01 as a basic document interchange format.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael(tm) Smith [mailto:mike@w3.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:01 AM
> To: Chris Wilson
> Cc: Arthur Barstow; Sunava Dutta; Michael Champion; Rigo Wenning;
> Charles McCathieNevile; Doug Schepers; www-archive@w3.org
> Subject: Re: URGENT: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier
> feedback from MS]
>
> Chris,
>
> To put it very simply what we have all have preferred from the
> beginning is for the comments to be posted *directly to the list*
> in PLAIN TEXT the way we have handled the rest of the
> communication around this.
>
> Is there some reason you guys can't manage to find a way to do that?
>
>   --Mike
>
> Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, 2008-06-13 09:56 -0700:
>
> > Out of curiousity, why would you want a proprietary-format copy of
> the paper?
> >
> > From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 3:58 AM
> > To: Sunava Dutta; Michael Champion; Chris Wilson
> > Cc: Rigo Wenning; Charles McCathieNevile; Doug Schepers; Mike Smith;
> www-archive@w3.org
> > Subject: URGENT: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier
> feedback from MS]
> > Importance: High
> >
> > All - please address this request ASAP i.e. today.
> >
> > This input is already overdue by one week and the f2f meeting is only
> two weeks away.
> >
> > -Regards, Art Barstow
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >
> > From: "ext Rigo Wenning" <rigo@w3.org<mailto:rigo@w3.org>>
> > Date: June 12, 2008 5:06:01 PM EDT
> > To: <public-webapps@w3.org<mailto:public-webapps@w3.org>>
> > Cc: "Barstow Art (Nokia-OCTO/Boston)"
> <art.barstow@nokia.com<mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com>>,
> <sunavad@windows.microsoft.com<mailto:sunavad@windows.microsoft.com>>,
> <Michael.Champion@microsoft.com<mailto:Michael.Champion@microsoft.com>>
> > Subject: Re: Need PDF of MS' input [Was Re: Seeking earlier feedback
> from MS]
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I've looked at the click-through license of the Microsoft Public
> > License. The license has some viral effects and if the specification
> > you are producing here will re-use parts of Microsoft's document, we
> > may end up in a situation where the Recommendation would also have to
> > carry the MS-Public license because of the click-through.
> >
> > I would rather like to avoid such a confusing situation. So if this
> > document is not only for reading, I would kindly ask Microsoft to
> > provide the document either in member space or in public space as a
> > contribution within the framework of the work of this group. This
> > would allow all to work in the context they expect. The contribution
> > can be done by sending the document to the mailing-list or adding it
> > to the wiki with a comment that it is designated to be input and
> > contribution to the WebAPI work.
> >
> > Would that be feasible? I think that was what Art requested in the
> > message cited below.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rigo Wenning
> > W3C Staff counsel
> >
> > Art Barstow wrote:
> > Sunava - as requested by several members of the WG, please send a
> > PDF
> > version of this document directly to the public-webapps mail list.
> >
> > -Thanks, Art Barstow
> >
> >
>
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