- From: ~:'' ありがとうございました。 <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:08:36 +0000
- To: www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>
Ian,
continuing the discussion around involving users in the W3C process.
How can we enable the user to define presentation beyond font size
and colour?
CSS user style sheets currently provide a useful means to define font
sizes and colours.
However CSS provides many more presentation attributes that are
generally not definable by the user. you may easily understand that
it's my contention that as a function of author's control over the
CSS WG, user style sheets like the one appended are pretty useless
across domains.
Please find appended two real world examples of how users wish to
repurpose web pages.**
Is anyone aware of published research into this area?
what work is ongoing within W3C steering group and CSSWG to ensure
users will be so enabled in the future?
regards
Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet
** One from Danny Ayers stripping out everything but the text links.
The other from me, an attempt to strip out everything that isn't
illustrated with a picture:
it could be useful if a user style sheet could in the future mimic
the server side project: 'barebones' from Danny Ayers which strips
out everything but the text links:
http://danja.talis.com/barebones/test.html
when I get a minute I mean to update it to display only linked images
with text like this:
using the simple style sheet attached visit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
this demo needs the whitespace removed but I raised this issue with
Håkon Lie and Andy Budd, it seems it's hard to impossible to improve
on my solution, which Only works for the one domain.
you'll know much better than me from what I remember it seems that
body display none wrecks the DOM and one cannot then selectively add
content.
this page gives a little more background
http://www.peepo.co.uk/mybbc/hints.html
user style sheet:
body {background:#6aa !important;}
body * {background:#6aa !important; color:#fff !important;
visibility:hidden;}
div.mvb,div.mvb a, div.mvb a img, div.o,div.o a, div.o a img
{visibility: visible;}
div.mvb a img, div.o a img{visibility: visible;
border:outset; border-width:.6em; border-color:#6aa; padding:.5em;}
div.mvb a img:hover, div.o a img:hover, div.mvb:focus,
div.o:focus, div.mvb a img:active, div.o a img:active
{background:white !important; color:#999 !important; border-
color:#999; border:solid; border-width:.6em; padding:.5em;}
Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet
Begin forwarded message:
From: "~:'' ありがとうございました。"
<j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: 29 November 2007 10:58:27 GMT
To: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>
Cc: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, Andy Budd
<info@andybudd.com>, process-issues@w3.org, timbl@w3.org
Subject: How can we enable the user to define presentation beyond
font size and colour?
Received on Monday, 3 December 2007 13:08:52 UTC