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Re: draft: forms task force volunteers? (tasks survey)

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:58:42 -0700
To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Cc: Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>, www-archive@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFA57571D6.E1129502-ON882572CA.004DF340-882572CA.00524802@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Dan,

I would like to have a bit more written about it, perhaps incorporating 
the combined text from the HTML WG charter, the Forms WG charter and the 
vision document (http://www.w3.org/2007/03/html-forms-vision.html).  How 
about this:

The HTML Working Group and the Forms Working Group are chartered to work 
together on a Joint Task Force to define the Forms component of the next 
version of HTML. 

The charters calls for two equivalent serializations to be developed, 
corresponding to a single DOM (or infoset, though tag soup cannot be 
considered to have an infoset currently, while it can have a DOM). This 
ensures that decisions are not made which would not preclude an XML 
serialization. It allows the two serializations to be inter-converted 
automatically. Having new language features, there is an incentive for 
content authors to use it; and having client-side implementations means 
that there is the possibility to really use it.  It is a goal of this work 
to make it possible for document authors to recognize and understand the 
tags of an HTML Form, whether or not it uses an XML serialization.

The current W3C Recommendation for Forms, XForms 1.0, has found success at 
meeting the more complex demands of forms in the enterprise market, 
whereas the Web Forms 2 work was designed to emphasize ease of authoring 
requirements.  It is a goal for this work to draw on the Web Forms 2 work 
to assist with meeting ease of authoring requirements while also being 
aligned to the XForms architecture (following design principles such as 
the separation of presentation from content). This new deliverable, the 
XML serialization of which has been termed XForms Transitional, will 
therefore offer ease of authoring as well as a smooth upgrade path towards 
XForms as complexities of the forms application grows over time. 

John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer

Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> 
04/26/2007 02:39 PM

John Boyer/CanWest/IBM@IBMCA
www-archive@w3.org, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
draft: forms task force volunteers? (tasks survey)

I had in mind something simple like this; what do you think, John?

Our charter calls for a joint task force with the Forms Working group...

"The HTML WG and the Forms Working Group will work together in this Task
Force to ensure that the new HTML forms and the new XForms Transitional
have architectural consistency and that document authors can transition
between them"
 -- http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter.html

The HTML WG task survey includes a checkbox; please check it if
you'd like to participate.

Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541  0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E
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