- From: Greg Elin <greg@fotonotes.net>
- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:17:14 -0500
- To: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>
- Cc: semantic-photolist@unitboy.com
Thanks, Jim. Good arguments for not using pop-up, or if using preferences, make the default non-popups. (In page DHTML popups...with interior layers? You may overestimate my DHTML prowess...) I'll put up a non-popup version and see how that works. I'll even try to get rid of the pop-up of the selected area. Could be interesting as it might create more space to enter information on the item. I'll play with it. Greg On Sunday, February 29, 2004, at 02:25 PM, Jim Ley wrote: > "Greg Elin" <greg@fotonotes.net> >> Ben and Bryce have raised the question regarding not using popups when >> clicking on an image link from a thumbnail view. > > I would say doing anything but using popups would be essential, with > popups > being near universally derided, and having significant accessibility > and > usability problems (they work fine if you close the window each time > perhaps, but if you don't and it's lost they're useless.) > > We've seen great DHTML from you Greg, so I know you can do it, why not > just > have "in page popups" where the images are placed in the page via DHTML > where supported (degrading to simple navigation, or similar if not.) > >> I lean toward 2) and 3). Both Gallery and the photo history of SIGCHI >> use popups to display the full photograph, which is what influenced my >> original choice. I personally think it avoids having to reload a page >> full of 50 or 100 thumbnails. > > Sure that's a good thing, except of course there are plenty of > solutions > which do use popups and achieve the same. > >> But does the popup cause problems for accessibility? For tools we want >> to try? > > Of course they do! IE6 in XP service pack 2 coming out soon is > rumoured to > contain a blocker, there's no point implementing something that people > will > hate! - We also wouldn't recommend a user preference approach (on > page > mechanism defaulting to off perhaps...) as chasing into the cookies > and p3p > privacy policies necessary to do this with our mixed content pages (I'm > assuming images may still be hosted elsewhere, or at least the service > support such.) Even without cookies are best avoided unnecessarily. > >> I do really want to keep the popup for annotating part of an image, >> however. I have consistently found that feature elicits a smile and a >> light-bulb as a different way to think of images. > > Or people never seeing it, I detest such a feature, (although I've not > seen > it here, the Crewe-London train not currently having any wireless.) and > can't see how a popup changes someones interaction with an image. > > Jim. > ================================== This is the TEMPORARY discussion list for the W3 Semantic-Photo History Project. For questions, contact greg@fotonotes.net. Subscribe Instructions To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: subscribe Unsubscribe Instructions To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: unsubscribe Help To: semantic-photolist-request@unitboy.com Body: help
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