- From: Jim Larson <jim@larson-tech.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:16:29 -0700
- To: Daniel Burnett <burnett@nuance.com>
- Cc: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>, luc.vantichelen@scansoft.com, scott.mcglashan@pipebeach.com, jerry.carter@scansoft.com, paolo.baggia@loquendo.com, jk@us.ibm.com, www-archive@w3.org, w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org
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Attendees at Sept 19 2003 telecon Dan Barnet Jim Larson Richard Ishida Martin Durst Luc VanTichlin Discussion Richard: Bidi is a small change with attribute with values left-to-right, right-to-left, right-left-override, and left-right-override Only Mongolian currently uses top to down. Jim: Martin should write white paper for Philip Hoscka's group outlining (1) the problem, (2) current preferred solution. Hoscka's group should review this, and figure out next steps. Martin: And add this as an issue for V3. Jim: We will add this as an issue for V3. Martin: I will write paper and forward to Hoscka's group for a broader discussion. Dan: item #58: We often split text strings across several lines to improve readability of the code. We don't understand your comment that the line break will have negative effects on visual rendering. Martin: There are lots of little potential trouble points here. The visual rendering doesn't need to be perfect. Richard: We don't see any big problems. Dan: I will officially reject this one Richard: We formally withdraw item 58. Martin: Issue 1 is of concern Dan: we will respond to this later Dan: item 4: Both SSML and SRGS are used outside of VoiceXML. Dan: change to "SSML is one of these standards and is designed to ...." Dan: item 11: Pronunciation dictionary may be language specific Martin: OK Dan: We will need e-mail responses to officially acknowledge agreement on issues. Martin: We can all approve the mintues and that will be fine for officially agreeing to comments. Richard: Xml:lang will should change the visual display of the language. Dan: We want to be clear that changing xml:lang will change other characteristics for voice applications. We permit xml:lang on <p> and <sentence> elements. Dan: We can provide a description (if not a transcription) of audio. The content of the <audio> element is text that is rendered if the audio file is not available. xdml:lang is not available on <audio> element. Martin: <audio> contains content which may use ssml elements. Dan: correct Luc: disc is designed to tell you what the audio is if the audio can't replay. Luc: When you change a language for vocal rendering, that will have an effect on various other parameters (including gender, speed, age, pitch, etc.) which will be disruptive to the listener. There may be breaks between language shifts. Thus we discourage frequently use of xml:lang. Dan: Think of it as a voice change, not language change. Martin: This should be documented. Luc: we have, in section 2.2.1, a description of what happens. After the second example, is additional description. Martin: We have made progress in understanding. We will want to discuss this in the group. You have made a strong case for an exception to using xml:lang everywhere. Dan: I will be back week after next. Let's continue then. Martin: Yes. We have a lot to learn on our side. Richard: we can prepare our thoughts in advance of a telecom. Dan: Please let us know which items you want to discuss. Dan will start process of scheduling another telecom. Jim will schedule the next meeting.
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