- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:30:14 +0100
- To: pfps@research.bell-labs.com
- Cc: www-archive@w3.org
Hi Peter this is the beginning of the offlist thread on how to move forward. I find it at lot easier if we keep all the discussion on www-archive, mainly because I don't like getting thru the HP firewall. Procedurally it's also better given its a public WG. I suggest that: - we try to characterise where we differ - we try to generate a plan of action - I write most and you yes/no given our current availability for OWL Proposed outputs: - two or three new ISSUEs for the issue list (possibly all about annotations). - a workpackage to proceed on OWL DL syntax in graph form. (i.e. an ACTION for me to do and you to review, your review scheduled to fit in with your other commitments) - a mutually acceptable decision on rdf:XMLLiteral ===== My understanding is that we agree on the main thrusts of AS&S, and also tend to agree on detailed bug fixes once it is clear what we are trying to do. However, I think we have differences at the "what we are trying to do" level - my current take is we disagree: - about the importance of simplifying the description of OWL DL RDF Graphs - about how to resolve the tension between a direct description and the implicit description - about rdf:XMLLiteral - we probably should have the technical discussion as to why I want it, and why you don't - that may be one we could have on webont, rather than off-list. This feels like an issuette rather than an issue, i.e. not really worth the full ISSUE process. (except I really can't live without it!). - about annotations in general my position roughly: try and do as much as RDFS - i.e. free and easy, but there will have to be some reduction somewhere, and the annotations *do* mean something (not a lot - but not nothing). my understanding of your position: do as little as possible, because there is a danger that users might think the annotations actually mean something So I see you as comfortable with simple text valued annotations as long as they are not understood via rdfms-assertion. Summary of my current understanding of preferred positions: Syntax: pfps: minimal, as in AS&S editor's draft (or probably a bit less) jjc: annotation properties can participate in rdfs:subPropertyOf with each other, can be themselves annotated; and can be used on individuals. Formal Semantics pfps: none? jjc: RDFS compatible The thread "Re: Annotations and entailments" died a death - on rdfms-assertion. Social Semantics: pfps: none jjc: rdfms-assertion ('with a vengence') Jeremy
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