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[should show up in http://www.anu.edu.au/mail-archives/link/link0103/ too -rrs] Message-ID: <3AAD66A1.736C4178@firstpr.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:15:29 +1100 From: Robin Whittle <rw@firstpr.com.au> Organization: First Principles To: Link mailing list <link@www.anu.edu.au> Subject: [LINK] Decorum in email and mailing lists - especially when asking for help Here is something I wrote for another list. I got some really appreciative responses and a request to copy it to another list. I wrote it after a kerfuffle resulting from me objecting to the way someone asked me, on the list, a poorly defined question, which required a long complex answer, by writing just a few words and no signature (they did not even state their name) or indication that they had thought about it for more than about 20 seconds. I don't think the problems I highlight here are much of a problem on Link, but since many Linkers are intensive email users, and are on, or run, other mailing lists, I figure it might interest some Linkers. - Robin Decorum in email and mailing lists - especially when asking for help ==================================================================== Originally written for the Analogue Heaven mailing list which concerns analogue electronic musical instruments. http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/ This is a general issue, for this list and for others, and for people who ask questions of strangers in private email. If the moderators of this list rule it off topic, so be it - I won't contribute any more to an on-list discussion of it. First I discuss how best to ask a question. Secondly I comment on what I perceive as some careless trends in email in general, which burdens the recipient(s) with a hard-to-read and/or impersonal message. Both these are relevant to private emails, but become more important on mailing lists where hundreds of people are reading. Asking for assistance ===================== When asking someone a question which requires a detailed answer, you are asking them to spend minutes or potentially an hour or more writing something. Generally it involves thinking and researching in order to give the correct answer. It also involves anticipating your present level of understanding of the field, what sort of answer you want, and what sort of vocabulary to use when answering. You may also be asking them to ask you to refine your question before they can answer it properly - so you are asking them to involve themselves in an ongoing email exchange. If you ask on a mailing list, you are asking the person to write to "publication standard" since their words will be read my hundreds of people. In addition, the answer to a mailing list will be archived on one or more websites which cannot be changed or updated, and which can be found by search engines for years afterwards. There are a lot of potential benefits to answering such questions and engaging in such debates. I am a member of dozens of email lists and I run one of my own - on spanking and domestic discipline. I spend a *lot* of time on email to individual friends and correspondents, on mailing list discussions and to potential, current and past customers. In general, I learn a lot - from the correspondence and by refining my own ideas. (For instance, what I wrote and learnt in the recent debate on Analogue heaven about HTML email is going to go straight into a debate about text vs. HTML on the Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org mail/news newsgroup discussion. There, it will affect the outcome of this major browser/email-client project, which amongst other things is the basis for future Netscape browsers.) When deciding whether to put everything else I should be doing *after* a 30 to 60 minute bout of work to answer a question, (that is to delay my entire life and all the benefits I can give to other people) I do a cost-benefit analysis. The primary questions are: Does the person - or other readers - want to know the answer bad enough that I should invest the time? Do I want to know the answer enough to put in the effort? What other benefits might flow to me or anyone else from such an exchange? Has the person looked on my website or done a web-search first before asking me for assistance? So when someone writes a really brief email, with no care or effort, then I don't feel inspired. Slackness in emails =================== There is a really bad trend which is continuing to grow - towards careless, disrespectful and hard-to-read emails. If you write to a person asking for help, or if you write to a list expecting hundreds of people to read your words (so spending hours of human effort on them) then you owe it to the reader(s) to put some effort into your email. Just by writing the email you are asking the person to spend time reading it, thinking about it and deciding whether to delete or save it and whether to ignore it or respond. To help them, you should ensure that: 1 - It is easy to read. 2 - It answers most of the questions which it is likely to raise. 3 - The subject line of the email is as informative as possible. This is a vital thing which is often overlooked. Consider the subject line in the context of the recipient's cluttered In Box - especially the hundreds of people on a mailing list. A subject line such as "Question" or "Info request" is useless - and is indistinguishable from SPAM. 4 - In so doing the above, you show respect for the reader - which helps them think you will appreciate a good reply. Because of slackness, bad habits with the awful (I think) medium of IRC, instant messengers, "chat" systems, and other fashionable and instinctual things, there is an unfortunate tendency for people to write emails: 1 - With no punctuation, capitalisation or even proper sentence structure. 2 - With lousy layout, particularly when quoting someone else. 3 - Sometimes, with HTML emails, in a way which is hard to read or print. (For instance, I just received one in black text on a black background. The text was invisible, but I selected it can copied it to something in which I could read it.) 4 - With no proper "Dear ...." and no signing of the name of the sender. All these make it harder for the recipient to read and understand. The lack of a name makes it harder for them to respond and to know who you are. All these tendencies are slack and impersonal. It takes a few seconds more to use proper sentences and punctuation. It takes a few seconds more to lay out the email in a readable fashion and to sign your name. Yet you are expecting your recipient to spend a minute or more handling, reading and thinking about the email. Why should anyone be inspired to write the sort of complete, thoughtful, response you presumably want, if they get insufficient indication that you will put the small but proper effort into writing a communicative email? A hundred years ago, many people were more literate and took much more care with their personal communications. Now, with communication so much easier and cheaper and no problems reading people's hand-writing, it is pathetic that some people can't be bothered doing a proper job of it. Lack of skill or time is no excuse. If you can speak proper sentences, you can write an email which respects the recipient by being easy to read and so saving their time. It is notable that I rarely find such slackness in emails from people whose first language is not English. There are instinctual tendencies to be super-brief and cryptic - and even to be intolerant of writing which is supposedly "long" due to its comprehensive and helpful nature. I think this comes from teenage secret code tendencies, and from instincts of young warriors and hunters to show off their prowess, but not reveal their technique. This has devastating effects, I think, in the paucity of comments and planning in many computer programs - which are generally written by young men in the grip of such instincts. But this is definitely off topic! I am not saying that every email needs to resemble a doctoral dissertation, and I don't care about spelling (I use a spell checker - I can't spell *this* well!). I don't claim to speak for anyone else, but I believe the issues raised above are important and affect many people. - Robin Additional notes: HTML emails are often more trouble than they are worth. This is especially so for a mailing list which some people receive in digest form. Either the digest software has to automatically remove or convert the HTML portion of the emails, or each such email is reproduced with a plain text section followed by an HTML section, which takes up space, is hard to read and adds no more information. http://www.google.com finds quite a few "Email etiquette" pages. The Mailing List Etiquette FAQ is at: http://www.gweep.bc.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html // Robin Whittle http://www.firstpr.com.au // Melbourne, Australia http://fondlyandfirmly.com // // First Consulting and telco tech writing; Internet // Principles music marketing; Audio compression; DSP; // Show and Tell; 21 Metre Sliiiiiiinky; // Fondly and Firmly - the Gentlemanly Art of... // // Real World Electronics for music, including Devil Fish // Interfaces TB-303 modifications & Akai sampler memory.
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