Re: Bug and/or Unwanted behavoure on typing indented text.

Le vendredi 11 avril 2008 à 15:40 +0200, Corne Beerse a écrit :
> Irene Vatton wrote: 
> > Le mercredi 09 avril 2008 à 15:53 +0200, Corne Beerse a écrit :
> >   
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if it is a bug, feature or just the way it is designed.
> > > It is however not the way I expected it to be.
> > > I'm using Amaya 10 (Feb 26 2008).
> > > I'm creating a xhtml transitional document
> > > I'm typing text and like the next paragraphs to be indented
> > >         Then it happens: At the start of the paragraph, I hit the
> > >         indent button.
> > >         The cursor indents as I expect.
> > >         I start typing and...
> > >         .... the paragraph removes and the text is entered at the end
> > >         of the previous paragraph.
> > >         I think this is a bug.
> > >     
> > 
> > Yes it is.
> >   
> I expect it is entered in the bug database ;-)

It's registered and already fixed

> > > Then I just type my text for the first indented paragraph, select it
> > > and hit the indent button.
> > > So far so good, the paragraph gets indented.
> > >         My cursor is still at the end of the indented text.
> > >         I hit enter to start a new paragraph...
> > > ..... the new paragraph is not indented...
> > > This can be a bug (as I expect) or it can be as designed. I donnot
> > > like it this way. Most wordprocessors and even several ascii editors
> > > keep the indent as it is until an 'unindent' button is hit. I even do
> > > recall the indent was kept as it its in previous versions of Amaya.
> > > Can this also be updated/changed?
> > >     
> > 
> > The transmission of the specific style of the current element to the new
> > created element won't encourage the use of CSS generic rules.
> > I know that wordprocessors generate mainly specific style. But it's very
> > tedious to update this kind of documents when you want to change the
> > indent, or other style property (we're developing a command to help
> > users to clean up documents generated by wordprocessors).
> > A better way is to attach global CSS rules to structure elements
> > (paragraphs, list items). So each new created element inherits the style
> > and the style can be easily changed.
> >   
> I've peeked in the html code and have seen the way indent is
> implemented in amaya. For indent of normal paragraphs <p>, there is no
> alternative than to do it by style or such. Since Amaya is an example
> implementation and you say a global CSS rule would be better, why does
> Amaya not do it as follows (if possible?): If an indent is wanted on
> an paragraph, create a style 'indent1 on a paragraph' and use that.

When you create the rule, a specific rule is created.
The "Format/Create a rule" command lets you create a rule for all p
element or for a specific class.

>  2nd level indent can be 'indent2 on a paragraph' and so in. I have
> several ideas on where and how to store the style definition, they
> include the top of the same file, opening the attached css file or
> just ask the user.

The "Format/Create a rule" command stores the information in the style
element of the current document. We could be provide an option to select
another location.

> Now I'm peeking at the html: if I remove the indent, the style is left
> in the type. Or is it cleared on save as 'obsolete'?

Perhaps there is a missing redisplay.

> On the other hand, I also used the indent button on list items <li>.
> Since <li> items can be used nested, I kind of expected that would be
> the case. I have to admit, that is what I'm used to in msWord, but it
> is a way to avoid style-sheets. Otherwise, If I want the <li> items
> nested, how do I do that?

Amaya mangages structure and presentation and msWord manages only
presentation. That explains the différence between the tools.
When you change the display support (phone, braille terminal) the
structure stays but the presentation can change.

> 
> > > btw: the above is on using indent on normal <p> paragraphs. While
> > > using bullets it is even more strange to me, I expect that to be
> > > related however.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Corné
> > > 
> > >     
> 
-- 
Irene Vatton <Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr>
INRIA

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