Re: special characters and related font problems.

On Thursday 24 November 2005 17:13, Ivan Herman wrote:
> Well...
>
> I am not sure what is going on.
>
> - I found those two files. First of all, I am not sure the file is all
> right by default (unless WIndows plays some internal trick). Indeed, on my
> XP, the font files are in c:\windows\fonts and not in c:\winnt\fonts as in
> those files. So I began by changing that, plus exchanged the unicode ones
> to Arialuni.TTF (the Arial Unicode MS TTF file). I saw no difference on the
> display of my files. (I made the change in both files).

Amaya is looking for all these paths. But I made a confusion: your problem 
concerns the WX widget and not the displayed characters in documents (Esstix 
is used to display symbols in documents).

I don't know at the moment how WX looks for its fonts.
I'll investigate.

>
> - I then put the same Arialuin.TTF file for what you call Esstix. Nothing
> changed...
>
> As for the list of symbols that are not visible: actually most of them. If
> I take, for example the list for <= and others (the lower left hand corner
> tab), the leq, geq, lt, gt, equals, thcap are *visible*, *all* others have
> an empty square instead. This makes this special character stuff pretty
> much unusable:-(
>
> Ivan
>
> P.S. Of course, the obvious comment: the average user should not be
> required to massage those files, there should be some sort of a preference
> setting...
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Irene Vatton <Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr>
> To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
> CC: www-amaya@w3.org
> Subject: Re:special characters and related font problems.
> Date: 24/11/2005 16:43
>
> > On Thursday 24 November 2005 10:50, Ivan Herman wrote:
> >>Using Amaya 9.2.2. on Windows XP.
> >>
> >>It is great to have the spacial characters facility to type, eg,
> >>mathematical symbols. However, the usability of the panel is greatly
> >>reduced by the fact that, for most of the characters, the symbol itself
> >> is not visible at all, only the symbolic name (which is way too cryptic
> >> most of the time).
> >>
> >>I guess a preference should set the font to be used there. I do have
> >> fonts on my machine (eg, Arial Unicode MS) that could display all those
> >> characters, so...
> >>
> >>I also realized a similar problem when editing a file itself. I am not
> >> sure which font the editor uses as a default, but most of the
> >> mathematical symbols (added to the file in Unicode UTF-8) are not
> >> displayed (although they appear perfectly on my, say, firefox screen
> >> using the same file).
> >>
> >>A final issue related to fonts: if I want to set the font-family to a
> >>specific font from the left panel, I cannot. The only choice Amaya gives
> >> me is the generic fonts. Ie, I have to go to the source view...
> >>
> >>Ivan
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>Ivan Herman
> >>W3C Communications Team, Head of Offices
> >>C/o W3C Benelux Office at CWI, Kruislaan 413
> >>1098SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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> >>URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> >
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > The list of explored fonts is given by 2 configuration files (I guess you
> > use the Windows version): Amaya\config\fonts.gl.win and
> > Amaya\config\fonts.gl.win.nt
> > where $OSDIR means the system directory and $THOTDIR means the Amaya
> > directory.
> > For symbols we use Esstix fonts as the majority of ttf files don't
> > include these symbols.
> >
> > Do you remember what symbols are not displayed?
> >
> >      Irène.
> > -----
> > Irène Vatton                     INRIA Rhône-Alpes
> > INRIA                               ZIRST
> > e-mail: Irene.Vatton@inria.fr       655 avenue de l'Europe
> > Tel.: +33 4 76 61 53 61             Montbonnot
> > Fax:  +33 4 76 61 52 07             38334 Saint Ismier Cedex - France

-- 
     Irène.
-----
Irène Vatton                     INRIA Rhône-Alpes
INRIA                               ZIRST
e-mail: Irene.Vatton@inria.fr       655 avenue de l'Europe
Tel.: +33 4 76 61 53 61             Montbonnot
Fax:  +33 4 76 61 52 07             38334 Saint Ismier Cedex - France

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