Re: special characters and related font problems.

Well...

I am not sure what is going on.

- I found those two files. First of all, I am not sure the file is all right by
default (unless WIndows plays some internal trick). Indeed, on my XP, the font
files are in c:\windows\fonts and not in c:\winnt\fonts as in those files. So I
began by changing that, plus exchanged the unicode ones to Arialuni.TTF (the
Arial Unicode MS TTF file). I saw no difference on the display of my files. (I
made the change in both files).

- I then put the same Arialuin.TTF file for what you call Esstix. Nothing changed...

As for the list of symbols that are not visible: actually most of them. If I
take, for example the list for <= and others (the lower left hand corner tab),
the leq, geq, lt, gt, equals, thcap are *visible*, *all* others have an empty
square instead. This makes this special character stuff pretty much unusable:-(

Ivan

P.S. Of course, the obvious comment: the average user should not be required to
massage those files, there should be some sort of a preference setting...

-------- Original Message --------
From: Irene Vatton <Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: www-amaya@w3.org
Subject: Re:special characters and related font problems.
Date: 24/11/2005 16:43

> On Thursday 24 November 2005 10:50, Ivan Herman wrote:
> 
>>Using Amaya 9.2.2. on Windows XP.
>>
>>It is great to have the spacial characters facility to type, eg,
>>mathematical symbols. However, the usability of the panel is greatly
>>reduced by the fact that, for most of the characters, the symbol itself is
>>not visible at all, only the symbolic name (which is way too cryptic most
>>of the time).
>>
>>I guess a preference should set the font to be used there. I do have fonts
>>on my machine (eg, Arial Unicode MS) that could display all those
>>characters, so...
>>
>>I also realized a similar problem when editing a file itself. I am not sure
>>which font the editor uses as a default, but most of the mathematical
>>symbols (added to the file in Unicode UTF-8) are not displayed (although
>>they appear perfectly on my, say, firefox screen using the same file).
>>
>>A final issue related to fonts: if I want to set the font-family to a
>>specific font from the left panel, I cannot. The only choice Amaya gives me
>>is the generic fonts. Ie, I have to go to the source view...
>>
>>Ivan
>>
>>--
>>
>>Ivan Herman
>>W3C Communications Team, Head of Offices
>>C/o W3C Benelux Office at CWI, Kruislaan 413
>>1098SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
>>tel: +31-20-5924163; mobile: +31-641044153;
>>URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> 
> 
> Hi Ivan,
> 
> The list of explored fonts is given by 2 configuration files (I guess you use 
> the Windows version): Amaya\config\fonts.gl.win and 
> Amaya\config\fonts.gl.win.nt
> where $OSDIR means the system directory and $THOTDIR means the Amaya 
> directory.
> For symbols we use Esstix fonts as the majority of ttf files don't include 
> these symbols.
> 
> Do you remember what symbols are not displayed?
> 
>      Irène.
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> 

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Ivan Herman
W3C Communications Team, Head of Offices
C/o W3C Benelux Office at CWI, Kruislaan 413
1098SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
tel: +31-20-5924163; mobile: +31-641044153;
URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/