- From: Dave J Woolley <david.woolley@bts.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:13:17 -0000
- To: www-amaya@w3.org
> From: Volker Kuhlmann [SMTP:kuhlmav@elec.canterbury.ac.nz] > > Is there any browser besides amaya which doesn't deal in frames? [DJW:] Firstly, Amaya is an editor for creating valid CSS formatted HTML, not primarily a browser. Secondly Lynx (and, I suspect, a couple of other text only browsers) don't support frames. html2ps (a printer medium browser, used to create the PDF version of the HTML specification) doesn't. WebTV converts frames into tables (I suspect in the gateway - i.e. the actual browser doesn't support them). You are not in touch with reality :-) There are few sites not using frames. I don't frequent e-business sites. Ok, let's settle on 50-50? That makes amaya useless for half of the web. Not good. > [DJW:] Half may well be true, but for it to fail on frames sites, the sites have also got to violate basic accessibility rules and not provide a sensible fallback mechanism (please "upgrade" is not a sensisble fallback). As well as the original mechanism, <noframes>, you can use sensible frame names (not left and right) and use titles on the frames. The problem is that few frames sites do things properly - however Amaya's job is to help people do things properly, not really to let them cope with bad design. If you want a stable browser capable of handling most current HTML abuses, you should use IE5. If you want open source, and can tolerate some instability, you should use the Mozilla series. You may get slightly more commercial web support with Netscape's build of these, but people report that it is better to track the latest open source version. -- --------------------------- DISCLAIMER --------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of BTS.
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