- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:53:26 -0500
- To: wai-xtech@w3.org
Rich wrote: > > http://www.w3.org/2014/12/09-aapi-minutes.html > > Rich Schwerdtfeger > Text only version: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference 09 Dec 2014 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/12/09-aapi-irc Attendees Present Joseph_Scheuhammer, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, [Microsoft] Regrets Joanie_Diggs, David_Bolter, Bryan_Garaventa Chair Joseph_Scheuhammer Scribe Rich Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]ACTION-1311/ACTION-1444/ACTION-1445: (Joseph, Cynthia) Clarify that presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within tables/lists. 2. [5]ACTION-1254: (Joseph) Consume/cancel keydown event when keypress is consumed/cancelled. 3. [6]ACTION-1542: (Joanie) Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph. 4. [7]ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text". * [8]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 09 December 2014 <scribe> scribenick: clown <scribe> agenda: this <richardschwerdtfeger> [9]http://127.0.0.1/~richardschwerdtfeger/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam. html [9] http://127.0.0.1/~richardschwerdtfeger/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html <richardschwerdtfeger> [10]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [10] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [11]http://w3c.github.io/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [11] http://w3c.github.io/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html <richardschwerdtfeger> [12]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [12] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [13]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_st ate-property [13] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_state-property take up item 1 action-1396? <trackbot> action-1396 -- Cynthia Shelly to Modify uaig to convey grid role in accessibility mappings, beyond table. (atk/atspi/ ia2 xml-role=grid, macosx: roledescription: grid, msaa/uiaexpress localizedcontroltype="grid"?) -- due 2014-11-15 -- CLOSED <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1396 [14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1396 JS: It's closed CS: I just did it. <richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: action 1396 is done [15]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-g rid [15] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-grid <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It looks like you want to change the UIA entry too <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: … the TR MSAA+UIA ROLE_SYSTEM_TABLE <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: what should this be now? UIA is DataGrid + seleciton pattern. <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: IT should be the same as the UIA one <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: It does fall back to table in MSAA if an legacy AT tries to access it <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: does this only Windows 10 or does it go all the way back <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: it goes all the way back take up next item <richardschwerdtfeger> action 1396 reasigned to joseph <trackbot> Error finding '1396'. You can review and register nicknames at <[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>. [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users action-1104? <trackbot> action-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104 [17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104 <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Action 1104 now changed to January 14 ACTION-1311/ACTION-1444/ACTION-1445: (Joseph, Cynthia) Clarify that presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within tables/lists. action-1445? <trackbot> action-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445 [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445 <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: on FF on IA2 if you have a table with role=“presentation” the cells are exposed as text frames. In ATK they are exposed as text. What about UIA? Text <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: text <richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Text Pattern action-1311? <trackbot> action-1311 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Clarify that presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within tables/lists; work out in UAIG 1.1 and with implementors/vendors how to resolve this. -- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1311 [19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1311 <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need to deal with mapping of text content <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Alex we need to deal text api mapping like AccessibleText <richardschwerdtfeger> Issue: Create a section in Core to address accessible text API for text content <trackbot> Created ISSUE-687 - Create a section in core to address accessible text api for text content. Please complete additional details at <[20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/687/edit>. [20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/687/edit <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need this for SVG as well [21]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#toc [21] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#toc <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: A good place would be to put this in a new section under 5.6 that deals with text, test styling, caret position, etc. [22]https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkText.html [22] https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkText.html [23]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs /html/interface_i_accessible_text.html [23] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text.html [24]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs /html/interface_i_accessible_text2.html [24] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text2.html [25]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs /html/interface_i_accessible_editable_text.html [25] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_editable_text.html <cyns> [26]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff3 84841(v=vs.85).aspx [26] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff384841(v=vs.85).aspx action-1444? <trackbot> action-1444 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Update atk/at-spi2 mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [27]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444 [27] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444 ACTION-1254: (Joseph) Consume/cancel keydown event when keypress is consumed/cancelled. action-1254? <trackbot> action-1254 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Work with WebApps working group to ensure that DOM spec states when a keydown event is consumed/cancelled that the corresponding keypress event is also cancelled. -- due 2014-12-09 -- OPEN <trackbot> [28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254 [28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254 <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It works in all the browsers and I contacted webapps to see if this was acceptable. [29]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/ tests/test-files/test22.html [29] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/tests/test-files/test22.html [30]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/raw-file/tip/html/DOM3-Ev ents.html#event-type-keydown [30] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/raw-file/tip/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-keydown If this event is canceled, the associated event types MUST NOT be dispatched, and the associated actions MUST NOT be performed. <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: if you go here this is one of the webapps documents. This is the keydown section of the DOM Events spec. <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: I included this in my email to Travis and I asked if my interpretation was correct <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Leave this action open so that I can make sure that I have heard from Travis. ACTION-1542: (Joanie) Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph. <richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Next week is the last meeting for this year Joanie not here, skip it. ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text". David is not here. Leave for next year. Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [31]scribe.perl version 1.140 ([32]CVS log) $Date: 2014-12-09 20:43:49 $ __________________________________________________________ [31] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [32] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ [35] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm -- ;;;;joseph. 'Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"' - G. Bernhardt -
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