- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 15:53:26 -0500
- To: wai-xtech@w3.org
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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
09 Dec 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/12/09-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, [Microsoft]
Regrets
Joanie_Diggs, David_Bolter, Bryan_Garaventa
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
Rich
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]ACTION-1311/ACTION-1444/ACTION-1445: (Joseph,
Cynthia) Clarify that presentation role should
preserve separation of nodes within tables/lists.
2. [5]ACTION-1254: (Joseph) Consume/cancel keydown event
when keypress is consumed/cancelled.
3. [6]ACTION-1542: (Joanie) Verify the commit for mozilla
bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph.
4. [7]ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2
mapping of role="text".
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 09 December 2014
<scribe> scribenick: clown
<scribe> agenda: this
<richardschwerdtfeger>
[9]http://127.0.0.1/~richardschwerdtfeger/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.
html
[9] http://127.0.0.1/~richardschwerdtfeger/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
<richardschwerdtfeger>
[10]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
[10] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
[11]http://w3c.github.io/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
[11] http://w3c.github.io/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
<richardschwerdtfeger>
[12]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
[12] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
[13]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_st
ate-property
[13] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_state-property
take up item 1
action-1396?
<trackbot> action-1396 -- Cynthia Shelly to Modify uaig to
convey grid role in accessibility mappings, beyond table.
(atk/atspi/ ia2 xml-role=grid, macosx: roledescription: grid,
msaa/uiaexpress localizedcontroltype="grid"?) -- due 2014-11-15
-- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1396
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1396
JS: It's closed
CS: I just did it.
<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: action 1396 is done
[15]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-g
rid
[15] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-grid
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It looks like you want to change the
UIA entry too
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: … the TR
MSAA+UIA ROLE_SYSTEM_TABLE
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: what should this be now?
UIA is DataGrid + seleciton pattern.
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: IT should be the same as the UIA one
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: It does fall back to table in MSAA
if an legacy AT tries to access it
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: does this only Windows 10 or does
it go all the way back
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: it goes all the way back
take up next item
<richardschwerdtfeger> action 1396 reasigned to joseph
<trackbot> Error finding '1396'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
[16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users
action-1104?
<trackbot> action-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define what the
accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in
section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the
accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies --
due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Action 1104 now changed to January
14
ACTION-1311/ACTION-1444/ACTION-1445: (Joseph, Cynthia) Clarify that
presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within
tables/lists.
action-1445?
<trackbot> action-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the
ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. --
due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: on FF on IA2 if you have a table
with role=“presentation” the cells are exposed as text frames.
In ATK they are exposed as text. What about UIA?
Text
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: text
<richardschwerdtfeger> CS: Text Pattern
action-1311?
<trackbot> action-1311 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Clarify that
presentation role should preserve separation of nodes within
tables/lists; work out in UAIG 1.1 and with
implementors/vendors how to resolve this. -- due 2014-11-15 --
OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1311
[19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1311
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need to deal with mapping of
text content
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Alex we need to deal text api
mapping like AccessibleText
<richardschwerdtfeger> Issue: Create a section in Core to
address accessible text API for text content
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-687 - Create a section in core to
address accessible text api for text content. Please complete
additional details at
<[20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/687/edit>.
[20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/687/edit
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: we need this for SVG as well
[21]http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#toc
[21] http://w3c.github.io/aria/core-aam/core-aam.html#toc
<richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: A good place would be to put this
in a new section under 5.6 that deals with text, test styling,
caret position, etc.
[22]https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkText.html
[22] https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkText.html
[23]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs
/html/interface_i_accessible_text.html
[23] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text.html
[24]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs
/html/interface_i_accessible_text2.html
[24] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_text2.html
[25]http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs
/html/interface_i_accessible_editable_text.html
[25] http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/interface_i_accessible_editable_text.html
<cyns>
[26]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff3
84841(v=vs.85).aspx
[26] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff384841(v=vs.85).aspx
action-1444?
<trackbot> action-1444 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Update
atk/at-spi2 mapping for role presentation in tables and lists.
-- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[27]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444
[27] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444
ACTION-1254: (Joseph) Consume/cancel keydown event when keypress is
consumed/cancelled.
action-1254?
<trackbot> action-1254 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Work with
WebApps working group to ensure that DOM spec states when a
keydown event is consumed/cancelled that the corresponding
keypress event is also cancelled. -- due 2014-12-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254
[28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: It works in all the browsers and I
contacted webapps to see if this was acceptable.
[29]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/
tests/test-files/test22.html
[29] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/tests/test-files/test22.html
[30]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/raw-file/tip/html/DOM3-Ev
ents.html#event-type-keydown
[30] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dom3events/raw-file/tip/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-keydown
If this event is canceled, the associated event types MUST NOT
be dispatched, and the associated actions MUST NOT be
performed.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: if you go here this is one of the
webapps documents. This is the keydown section of the DOM
Events spec.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: I included this in my email to
Travis and I asked if my interpretation was correct
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Leave this action open so that I can
make sure that I have heard from Travis.
ACTION-1542: (Joanie) Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and
report the atk role to joseph.
<richardschwerdtfeger> JS: Next week is the last meeting for
this year
Joanie not here, skip it.
ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of
role="text".
David is not here. Leave for next year.
Summary of Action Items
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