- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:27:43 -0400
- To: WAI XTech <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Minutes from the User Agent Implementation Guide teleconference of 29 October are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:
http://www.w3.org/2013/10/29-aapi-minutes.html
W3C
- DRAFT -
Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
29 Oct 2013
Agenda
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
janina
Contents
* Topics
1. ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for
2. ACTION-1263: (All) WebKit has replaced AXARIABusy with
3. ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset
4. ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for
5. ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset
6. test case 74
7. test 92
* Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 29 October 2013
<davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
2274#
You can't hear me now!
<scribe> scribe: janina
ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for
<clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Oct/0010.html
AXElementBusy; update UAIG? Tests would need same modifications.
in AriaProperties, not LegacyIAccessible.Description. Or both?
<clown> action-1263?
<trackbot> action-1263 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to AXARIABusy is probably going to change to something less ARIA-specific, like AXBusy or AXElementBusy -- due 2013-09-23
-- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1263
UAIG. Let's try to finish the test cases during the meeting.
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
[18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
<davidb> cynthia's ETA is 5 mins from now
ACTION-1263: (All) WebKit has replaced AXARIABusy with
<clown> action-1263?
<trackbot> action-1263 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to AXARIABusy is probably going to change to something less ARIA-specific, like AXBusy or AXElementBusy -- due 2013-09-23
-- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1263
clown: Ax ARIA-Busy is going to change, according to JC
... JC OK whether we change this in 1.1 or 1.0
... Prefer to do it now
[agreement to do it in 1.1]
<davidb> (+1 for living document!)
ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset
ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for
<clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#User_Agent_Implementation_Guide_Testable_Statements
db: Haven't added any
mc: Because there were no issues?
... Q is whether our tests are comprehensive
db: Think so
<MichaelC> currently we have test cases 42, 43, 44, 103
clown: Believe I did these this morning!
<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=2&testcase_id=62
<davidb> nice
db: So, we only need to make sure this now maps to the guide
clown: So believe bullet 7 no longer matters
mc: Q: Anything in this section not covered in those 4 test cases?
<davidb> discussing guide 5.1.2 6 bullets:
mc Believe, and should be verified, bullet 1 is test 103
mc 2 is 42
mc 3 is 43
mc: 4 is 44
clown: 6 is covered by 62-66
js: leaves 5 what coveres 5
db: Implicitly sprinkled throughout
clown: Suppose we should have a test with "hidden=true"
... Certainly have an entire section on globals
<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1
clown: From 75-157 is a series of elements including global state & prop -- maybe not all, but lots
... Oops 74-157
db: Don't see anything that will cause UAIG edit
<davidb> famous last words
db: Could do another test to be even more certain of the globals, zakim, close this item
ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset
<clown> action-1285?
<trackbot> action-1285 -- Shane McCarron to Review w3c html ruby markup extensions http://www.w3.org/tr/html-ruby-extensions/ -- due 2013-10-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1285
<clown> action-1286?
<trackbot> action-1286 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Change the msaa+uia and uia mappings of aria-posinset to (word smith): expose in ariaproperties. -- due 2013-11-04 --
OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1286
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases/edit?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=346
cyns: can confirm not in the description any longer
... suggest taking legacy description stuff out
... just aria-properties
... descript to a "may"
... ditto for uia, but without the "may"
<davidb> gotta run
clown: will get this done
test case 74
rs: supposed to get remove followed by insert
... we get several rounds of removal and insertion
js: suggests this comes under "we don't care about sequencing"
<clown> IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE followed immediately by IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED
<clown> Change to: IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE and by IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED.
<clown> Change to: IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE and IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED.
<clown> ACTION: Joseph to change section 5.8.2, first table for "When text is changed" row: remove sequencing from MSAA+IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI columns. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/10/29-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1288 - Change section 5.8.2, first table for "when text is changed" row: remove sequencing from msaa+ia2 and atk/at-spi columns. [on Joseph
Scheuhammer - due 2013-11-05].
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/tests/test-files/test74.html
test 92
clown: currently discussion in email
rs: passes
clown: we had emails on 90-92
Comcast just failed me!
Still no sip connection ...
Ah, can't get back in. "Conference is restricted at this time."
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Joseph to change section 5.8.2, first table for "When text is changed" row: remove sequencing from MSAA+IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI columns. [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2013/10/29-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Found Scribe: janina
People with action items: joseph
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