- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:16:29 -0400
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/10/01-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
01 Oct 2013
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Sep/0014.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/10/01-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper, Cooper,
Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
David_Bolter
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
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clown
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]ACTION-1255
2. [6]ACTION-1257
3. [7]action-1269
* [8]Summary of Action Items
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CS: I've done some of my tasks regarding IE11.
... Let me look at my notes.
ACTION-1255
action-1255?
<trackbot> action-1255 -- Cynthia Shelly to Look into toggle
patterns and how that needs to be modified in the uaig. -- due
2013-09-28 -- OPEN
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[9]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1255
[9] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1255
CS: Treegrid in IE11 is mapped to DataGrid.
... with a legacy role.
... and the treeitem children are treeitem.
... the experience in MSAA is weird: a table with treeitems in
it.
ACTION-1257
action-1257?
<trackbot> action-1257 -- Cynthia Shelly to Check the ie10 and
ie11 to see how they map the treegrid role. -- due 2013-09-28
-- OPEN
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[10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1257
[10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1257
<cyns> 1257 IE11
<cyns> Treegrid is
<cyns> ControlType: UIA_DataGridControlTypeId (0xC36C)
<cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree grid"
<cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: table (0x18)
<cyns> Treeitem is
<cyns> ControlType: UIA_TreeItemControlTypeId (0xC368)
<cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree item"
<cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: outline item (0x24)
JS: right now, the UAIG says:
... MSAA+UIAExpress: treegrid maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_CELL.
UIA: maps to DataItem.
MSAA+UIAExpress: treeitem maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_OUTLINEITEM
UIA: treeitem maps to TreeItem
JS: So, for MSAA+UIExpress don't use MSAA values, just use UIA.
... So: treegrid is mapped as DataGrid, and treeitem is mapped
as TreeItem
... Also, currently for pure UIA table says use "DataItem".
CS: that's wrong.
... use "DataGrid".
... for treegrid
... I think it is fine to make the change. IE11 is newer,
... I'll have to work on IE10 in the meantime.
action-1269
action-1269?
<trackbot> action-1269 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Prefix bullet 2
of #keyboard-focus_aria-activedescendant with "for platforms
that expose an accessibility focus separately from the keyboard
focus," -- due 2013-10-07 -- OPEN
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[11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269
[11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269
JS: Change "keyboard focus" to "dom focus"
CS: yes.
... also ,..
<cyns> for platforms that expose desktop (or OS) focus
separately from DOM focus
<cyns> or "for platforms that expose operating system focus
separately from DOM focus"
CS: in windows, the focus events are not just a11y focus
events, but desktop focus events.
for platforms that expose operating system focus or a11y focus
separately from DOM focus
for platforms that expose operating system focus (windows) or
a11y focus (linxu) separately from DOM focus
"For Windows, there is no separate a11y focus, but there is a
separate desktop focus, that is set by IE and FF — separate
from the DOM focus"
[12]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269
[12] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269
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Summary of Action Items
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