Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Tue Oct 01 2013

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            Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                               01 Oct 2013

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Sep/0014.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

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Attendees

    Present
           Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper, Cooper,
           Cynthia_Shelly

    Regrets
           David_Bolter

    Chair
           Joseph_Scheuhammer

    Scribe
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Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]ACTION-1255
          2. [6]ACTION-1257
          3. [7]action-1269
      * [8]Summary of Action Items
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    <trackbot> Date: 01 October 2013

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    CS: I've done some of my tasks regarding IE11.
    ... Let me look at my notes.

ACTION-1255

    action-1255?

    <trackbot> action-1255 -- Cynthia Shelly to Look into toggle
    patterns and how that needs to be modified in the uaig. -- due
    2013-09-28 -- OPEN

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    [9]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1255

       [9] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1255

    CS: Treegrid in IE11 is mapped to DataGrid.
    ... with a legacy role.
    ... and the treeitem children are treeitem.
    ... the experience in MSAA is weird: a table with treeitems in
    it.

ACTION-1257

    action-1257?

    <trackbot> action-1257 -- Cynthia Shelly to Check the ie10 and
    ie11 to see how they map the treegrid role. -- due 2013-09-28
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1257

      [10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1257

    <cyns> 1257 IE11

    <cyns> Treegrid is

    <cyns> ControlType: UIA_DataGridControlTypeId (0xC36C)

    <cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree grid"

    <cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: table (0x18)

    <cyns> Treeitem is

    <cyns> ControlType: UIA_TreeItemControlTypeId (0xC368)

    <cyns> LocalizedControlType: "tree item"

    <cyns> LegacyIAccessible.Role: outline item (0x24)

    JS: right now, the UAIG says:
    ... MSAA+UIAExpress: treegrid maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_CELL.

    UIA: maps to DataItem.

    MSAA+UIAExpress: treeitem maps to ROLE_SYSTEM_OUTLINEITEM

    UIA: treeitem maps to TreeItem

    JS: So, for MSAA+UIExpress don't use MSAA values, just use UIA.
    ... So: treegrid is mapped as DataGrid, and treeitem is mapped
    as TreeItem
    ... Also, currently for pure UIA table says use "DataItem".

    CS: that's wrong.
    ... use "DataGrid".
    ... for treegrid
    ... I think it is fine to make the change. IE11 is newer,
    ... I'll have to work on IE10 in the meantime.

action-1269

    action-1269?

    <trackbot> action-1269 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Prefix bullet 2
    of #keyboard-focus_aria-activedescendant with "for platforms
    that expose an accessibility focus separately from the keyboard
    focus," -- due 2013-10-07 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

      [11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

    JS: Change "keyboard focus" to "dom focus"

    CS: yes.
    ... also ,..

    <cyns> for platforms that expose desktop (or OS) focus
    separately from DOM focus

    <cyns> or "for platforms that expose operating system focus
    separately from DOM focus"

    CS: in windows, the focus events are not just a11y focus
    events, but desktop focus events.

    for platforms that expose operating system focus or a11y focus
    separately from DOM focus

    for platforms that expose operating system focus (windows) or
    a11y focus (linxu) separately from DOM focus

    "For Windows, there is no separate a11y focus, but there is a
    separate desktop focus, that is set by IE and FF — separate
    from the DOM focus"

    [12]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

      [12] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1269

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Summary of Action Items

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