Re: Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Tue Nov 05 2013

Thanks, I had the same thought, thinking that 0 would be too easy to confuse as a null value as well.
 
Since I'm building an editable data grid module for use with server side DB integration, it makes sense to add this as a placeholder attribute even though it's not currently supported, then it will just work later down the road regardless.

  When it's complete, I'll be happy to share it if you wish.

  All the best,
  Bryan


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Schwerdtfeger 
  To: Bryan Garaventa ; surkov.alexander@gmail.com 
  Cc: Joseph Scheuhammer ; wai-xtech@w3.org ; W3C WAI Protocols & Formats 
  Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 7:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Tue Nov 05 2013


  Hi Bryan,

  These will need to be 1 based to be consistent with aria-posinset. 

  These were just decided on and the attribute is not currently supported in browsers. It was agreed on in the working group meeting and we will require two browser implementations before we know it is a done deal. :-) 

  That said, I don't see any issues.

  Rich



  Rich Schwerdtfeger

  "Bryan Garaventa" ---11/05/2013 03:14:08 PM---A quick question about aria-colindex and aria-rowindex, are the accepted  values for this based on a

  From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
  To: "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@alum.mit.edu>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
  Date: 11/05/2013 03:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Tue Nov 05 2013



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  A quick question about aria-colindex and aria-rowindex, are the accepted 
  values for this based on an array index, or do the values start with 1?

  E.G

  aria-colindex="0" and aria-rowindex="0" = col 1 row 1?

  Or would it be:

  aria-colindex="1" and aria-rowindex="1" = col 1 row 1?

  I'm building an ARIA Grid component at the moment, so I can just plug this 
  in for future support if it's a definite for the spec.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@alum.mit.edu>
  To: <wai-xtech@w3.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 12:44 PM
  Subject: Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Tue Nov 05 2013


  > Link:  http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html
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  >    [1]W3C
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  >       [1] http://www.w3.org/
  >
  >                                - DRAFT -
  >
  >            Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
  >                               05 Nov 2013
  >
  >    [2]Agenda
  >
  >       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Nov/0000.html
  >
  >    See also: [3]IRC log
  >
  >       [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-irc
  >
  > Attendees
  >
  >    Present
  >           Bryan_Garaventa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper,
  >           David_Bolter, Cynthia_Shelly
  >
  >    Regrets
  >    Chair
  >           Joseph_Scheuhammer
  >
  >    Scribe
  >           clown
  >
  > Contents
  >
  >      * [4]Topics
  >          1. [5]Issues/Actions
  >          2. [6]Bugzillas.
  >          3. [7]1.1. Issues and Actions
  >      * [8]Summary of Action Items
  >      __________________________________________________________
  >
  >    <trackbot> Date: 05 November 2013
  >
  >    <scribe> scribenick: clown
  >
  > Issues/Actions
  >
  >    [9]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
  >
  >       [9] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
  >
  >    JS: The document is going to go last call very soon.
  >
  >    MC: It was supposed to be today, but it might not be until
  >    tomorrow but with today's date.
  >
  >    JS: there are two issues and one action in the list for the
  >    UAIG.
  >    ... The two issues are Michael's and they will happen when they
  >    happen.
  >
  >    MC Right, there not important for this meeting.
  >
  >    CS: The issue-616 is closed. Close the action?
  >
  >    action-1284?
  >
  >    <trackbot> action-1284 -- Cynthia Shelly to Start the
  >    conversation re keeping issue-616 feature in the spec on list,
  >    realizing it may go lc at risk. we need to determine what to do
  >    by next tuesday. -- due 2013-10-29 -- CLOSED
  >
  >    <trackbot>
  >    [10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1284
  >
  >      [10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1284
  >
  >    JS: The discussion will pick up again in the 1.1 time frame.
  >    ... So, move the action to 1.1?
  >
  >    CS: So, I just moved it to 1.1
  >
  > Bugzillas.
  >
  >    [11]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Platfo
  >    rm%20APIs&list_id=3116&product=ARIA
  >
  >      [11] 
  > https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116&product=ARIA
  >
  >    JS: there are two open bugs.
  >    ... first on is
  >    :[12]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22131
  >    ... I think this is a best practices issue.
  >
  >      [12] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22131
  >
  >    MC: This bugzilla has component "UAIG".
  >
  >    DB: Do we have other components for the ARIA product.
  >
  >    MC: There is also the issue of whether to use bugzillla going
  >    foward, or how to best use it.
  >    ... What component to use?
  >
  >    DB: Either "general" or "best practices".
  >
  >    MC: Let's set up "General".
  >
  >    JS: any way to move this bug to the new "General" component?
  >
  >    MC: Yes, just edit the bug, and reset the component.
  >    ... <notices an email to google> I should change that old email
  >    address.
  >
  >    [13]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7044
  >
  >      [13] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7044
  >
  >    CS: That is listed a version 1.0
  >
  >    DB: That should be changed to 2.0
  >
  >    <davidb> [discussion about bug history]
  >
  >    CS: I looked at it back in 2009, but thought we didn't have
  >    time then.
  >
  >    DB: We could let it lie, or move it to an issue.
  >
  >    JS: Is it more likely to be picked up if an ARIA 2.0 issue or
  >    ARIA 1.1?
  >
  >    CS: I think it should be an issue, and 1.1. timeframe is
  >    reasonable.
  >    ... I can make an issue for this.
  >
  >    DB: Let's put a link to the bugzilla in the issue.
  >
  >    [14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state
  >    -property
  >
  >      [14] 
  > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property
  >
  >    list item number 5.
  >
  >    <cyns> Bug 7044 moved to issue 628
  >    [15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/628
  >
  >      [15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/628
  >
  > 1.1. Issues and Actions
  >
  >    [16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/17
  >
  >      [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/17
  >
  >    issue-398?
  >
  >    <trackbot> issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset
  >    should apply to more than just listitem and option -- open
  >
  >    <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
  >
  >      [17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
  >
  >    JS: instead of posinet and setsize for grids, Chrome suggested
  >    aria-colindex and aria-rowindex.
  >
  >    CS: Seems like a good idea.
  >
  >    <davidb> agreed
  >
  >    CS: Next week is TPAC. Should we have this call next week?
  >    ... I will be at TPAC.
  >
  >    JS: I will discuss it with you later, David.
  >
  >    <davidb> DB: awesome
  >
  >    s/MC\: Right/MC: Right/
  >
  >    s/MC Right/MC\: Right/g
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  > Summary of Action Items
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