Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF meeting Agenda Thu May 16 2013

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            Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                               16 May 2013

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013May/0003.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

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Attendees

    Present
           Cynthia_Shelly, Joseph_Scheuhammer

    Regrets
           David_Bolter

    Chair
           Joseph_Scheuhammer

    Scribe
           clown

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]action-1200
          2. [6]issue-550
          3. [7]ACTION-1221
          4. [8]ISSUE-582
          5. [9]ISSUE-584
          6. [10]actions-818
          7. [11]action-973
          8. [12]action-982
          9. [13]action-1104
         10. [14]action-1210
      * [15]Summary of Action Items
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    <trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013

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action-1200

    action-1200?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for
    author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due
    2013-05-01 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200

      [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200

    CS: I haven't started that.

issue-550

    issue-550?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing
    UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open

    <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550

      [17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550

    JS: i'm doing some edits to today and will close this out.

ACTION-1221

    ACTION-1221?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559,
    remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI
    about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the
    aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due
    2013-05-16 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221

      [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221

    JS: I will try to get to these modifications today as well.

ISSUE-582

    ISSUE-582?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-582 -- We don't have an explicit mapping, for
    each platform, for the focusable state in the UAIG -- open

    <trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582

      [19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582

    CS: I was testing a test case about focusable, and didn't see
    the expected result.

    JS: there is a table in the UAIG for focusable states.

    [20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_e
    vent_table

      [20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_event_table

    JS: For MSAA it's STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE and for UIA it's
    UIA_IsKeyboardFocusablePropertyId

    CS: Yes, but I wasn't seeing that. It might not be implemented
    that way IE.
    ... Let's ask RIch for more info about this.

    JS: good idea.

ISSUE-584

    ISSUE-584?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-584 -- Firefox has introduce a role mapping of
    grouping for rowgroup (should this be consistent across
    platforms) -- open

    <trackbot> [21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584

      [21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584

    JS: Looks like UIA expresss and UIA both do something for row
    group — AriaRole is 'rowgroup' and as 'group' role in UIA.
    ... the other platforms don't map it.

    CS: I think FF puts the string 'rowgroup' in MSAA accRole, but
    that's supposed be an enumerated type, not a string.

    JS: I think they are going to change that behaviour.
    ... there is another issue about removing it.

    CS: the html meeting last week — Steve F was going to change
    the mapping table to put something in for rowgroup and
    something for table elements like thead.
    ... I think it works for me.
    ... I don't think this is change we need — it's a "works for
    me".
    ... I also think that the last one about focusable is also
    "works for me". If Rich wants to re-open it, he can.

    JS: I think I bring these up at a weekly meeting, and ask if we
    can close them, or if not, what else do we need to do.

actions-818

    action-818?

    <trackbot> ACTION-818 -- Cynthia Shelly to [TESTING]
    Investigate aria-expanded for UAIG, true/false/undefined value
    type -- due 2011-08-31 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818

      [22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818

    CS: I think we are already testing this. I don't think this is
    needed anymore.
    ... I'll just close it.

action-973

    action-973?

    <trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Cynthia Shelly to work with David
    Bolter and Larry Weiss to create testable statements for UAIG
    4.2 Controlling focus with tabindex, bullet 11 -- due
    2013-02-01 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973

      [23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973

    CS: this is still open. It's really tricky.
    ... there is DOM focus, and desktop focus, and, sometimes
    "real" focus.
    ... this is still active — move the due to Jul 15.

    JS: there were some active descendant test cases. Maybe these
    tests already exist. Someone should look.

    CS: MS and FF disagree what is the correct way to deal with
    this.
    ... Larry, David and I crafted some wording, but it is a
    fragile detente.
    ... I may get to this earlier. We'll see.

action-982

    action-982?

    <trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Cynthia Shelly to create UIA special
    case test cases from existing generated test cases. -- due
    2012-03-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982

      [24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982

    CS: there are a bunch of mappings that say, "it maps to this,
    except when, …" and "it maps to this, but also map this other
    thing".
    ... these need to be hand crafted. Move the due date to july 1.

action-1104

    action-1104?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the
    accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in
    section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the
    accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies --
    due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [25]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104

      [25] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104

    CS: I don't know what the right answer is for this.
    ... for UIA express, we put it into the legacy description
    field.
    ... I still need to think about this some more.
    ... I think there should be an accessible object for it, but
    make it not focusable.
    ... change due date to next week.

    JS: done.

action-1210

    action-1210?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1210 -- Cynthia Shelly to research why test
    case 267 fails. Is UAIG or IE10 impl correct? -- due 2013-05-02
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210

      [26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210

    CS: that's still active. Next week.

    JS: that's it for you.
    ... let's call it a meeting then.

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Summary of Action Items

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