- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:44:31 -0400
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
16 May 2013
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013May/0003.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Cynthia_Shelly, Joseph_Scheuhammer
Regrets
David_Bolter
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
clown
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action-1200
2. [6]issue-550
3. [7]ACTION-1221
4. [8]ISSUE-582
5. [9]ISSUE-584
6. [10]actions-818
7. [11]action-973
8. [12]action-982
9. [13]action-1104
10. [14]action-1210
* [15]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013
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action-1200
action-1200?
<trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for
author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due
2013-05-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200
[16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200
CS: I haven't started that.
issue-550
issue-550?
<trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing
UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
<trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
JS: i'm doing some edits to today and will close this out.
ACTION-1221
ACTION-1221?
<trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559,
remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI
about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the
aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due
2013-05-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221
JS: I will try to get to these modifications today as well.
ISSUE-582
ISSUE-582?
<trackbot> ISSUE-582 -- We don't have an explicit mapping, for
each platform, for the focusable state in the UAIG -- open
<trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582
[19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582
CS: I was testing a test case about focusable, and didn't see
the expected result.
JS: there is a table in the UAIG for focusable states.
[20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_e
vent_table
[20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_event_table
JS: For MSAA it's STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE and for UIA it's
UIA_IsKeyboardFocusablePropertyId
CS: Yes, but I wasn't seeing that. It might not be implemented
that way IE.
... Let's ask RIch for more info about this.
JS: good idea.
ISSUE-584
ISSUE-584?
<trackbot> ISSUE-584 -- Firefox has introduce a role mapping of
grouping for rowgroup (should this be consistent across
platforms) -- open
<trackbot> [21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584
[21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584
JS: Looks like UIA expresss and UIA both do something for row
group — AriaRole is 'rowgroup' and as 'group' role in UIA.
... the other platforms don't map it.
CS: I think FF puts the string 'rowgroup' in MSAA accRole, but
that's supposed be an enumerated type, not a string.
JS: I think they are going to change that behaviour.
... there is another issue about removing it.
CS: the html meeting last week — Steve F was going to change
the mapping table to put something in for rowgroup and
something for table elements like thead.
... I think it works for me.
... I don't think this is change we need — it's a "works for
me".
... I also think that the last one about focusable is also
"works for me". If Rich wants to re-open it, he can.
JS: I think I bring these up at a weekly meeting, and ask if we
can close them, or if not, what else do we need to do.
actions-818
action-818?
<trackbot> ACTION-818 -- Cynthia Shelly to [TESTING]
Investigate aria-expanded for UAIG, true/false/undefined value
type -- due 2011-08-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818
[22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818
CS: I think we are already testing this. I don't think this is
needed anymore.
... I'll just close it.
action-973
action-973?
<trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Cynthia Shelly to work with David
Bolter and Larry Weiss to create testable statements for UAIG
4.2 Controlling focus with tabindex, bullet 11 -- due
2013-02-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973
[23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973
CS: this is still open. It's really tricky.
... there is DOM focus, and desktop focus, and, sometimes
"real" focus.
... this is still active — move the due to Jul 15.
JS: there were some active descendant test cases. Maybe these
tests already exist. Someone should look.
CS: MS and FF disagree what is the correct way to deal with
this.
... Larry, David and I crafted some wording, but it is a
fragile detente.
... I may get to this earlier. We'll see.
action-982
action-982?
<trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Cynthia Shelly to create UIA special
case test cases from existing generated test cases. -- due
2012-03-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982
[24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982
CS: there are a bunch of mappings that say, "it maps to this,
except when, …" and "it maps to this, but also map this other
thing".
... these need to be hand crafted. Move the due date to july 1.
action-1104
action-1104?
<trackbot> ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the
accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in
section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the
accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies --
due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[25]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
[25] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
CS: I don't know what the right answer is for this.
... for UIA express, we put it into the legacy description
field.
... I still need to think about this some more.
... I think there should be an accessible object for it, but
make it not focusable.
... change due date to next week.
JS: done.
action-1210
action-1210?
<trackbot> ACTION-1210 -- Cynthia Shelly to research why test
case 267 fails. Is UAIG or IE10 impl correct? -- due 2013-05-02
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210
[26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210
CS: that's still active. Next week.
JS: that's it for you.
... let's call it a meeting then.
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Summary of Action Items
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