- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:44:31 -0400
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-aapi-minutes.html Plain text version follows: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference 16 May 2013 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013May/0003.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-aapi-irc Attendees Present Cynthia_Shelly, Joseph_Scheuhammer Regrets David_Bolter Chair Joseph_Scheuhammer Scribe clown Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action-1200 2. [6]issue-550 3. [7]ACTION-1221 4. [8]ISSUE-582 5. [9]ISSUE-584 6. [10]actions-818 7. [11]action-973 8. [12]action-982 9. [13]action-1104 10. [14]action-1210 * [15]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013 <scribe> scribenick: clown rssagent, make log public action-1200 action-1200? <trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due 2013-05-01 -- OPEN <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200 [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200 CS: I haven't started that. issue-550 issue-550? <trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open <trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550 [17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550 JS: i'm doing some edits to today and will close this out. ACTION-1221 ACTION-1221? <trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559, remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221 [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221 JS: I will try to get to these modifications today as well. ISSUE-582 ISSUE-582? <trackbot> ISSUE-582 -- We don't have an explicit mapping, for each platform, for the focusable state in the UAIG -- open <trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582 [19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582 CS: I was testing a test case about focusable, and didn't see the expected result. JS: there is a table in the UAIG for focusable states. [20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_e vent_table [20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_event_table JS: For MSAA it's STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE and for UIA it's UIA_IsKeyboardFocusablePropertyId CS: Yes, but I wasn't seeing that. It might not be implemented that way IE. ... Let's ask RIch for more info about this. JS: good idea. ISSUE-584 ISSUE-584? <trackbot> ISSUE-584 -- Firefox has introduce a role mapping of grouping for rowgroup (should this be consistent across platforms) -- open <trackbot> [21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584 [21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584 JS: Looks like UIA expresss and UIA both do something for row group — AriaRole is 'rowgroup' and as 'group' role in UIA. ... the other platforms don't map it. CS: I think FF puts the string 'rowgroup' in MSAA accRole, but that's supposed be an enumerated type, not a string. JS: I think they are going to change that behaviour. ... there is another issue about removing it. CS: the html meeting last week — Steve F was going to change the mapping table to put something in for rowgroup and something for table elements like thead. ... I think it works for me. ... I don't think this is change we need — it's a "works for me". ... I also think that the last one about focusable is also "works for me". If Rich wants to re-open it, he can. JS: I think I bring these up at a weekly meeting, and ask if we can close them, or if not, what else do we need to do. actions-818 action-818? <trackbot> ACTION-818 -- Cynthia Shelly to [TESTING] Investigate aria-expanded for UAIG, true/false/undefined value type -- due 2011-08-31 -- OPEN <trackbot> [22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818 [22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818 CS: I think we are already testing this. I don't think this is needed anymore. ... I'll just close it. action-973 action-973? <trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Cynthia Shelly to work with David Bolter and Larry Weiss to create testable statements for UAIG 4.2 Controlling focus with tabindex, bullet 11 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN <trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973 [23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973 CS: this is still open. It's really tricky. ... there is DOM focus, and desktop focus, and, sometimes "real" focus. ... this is still active — move the due to Jul 15. JS: there were some active descendant test cases. Maybe these tests already exist. Someone should look. CS: MS and FF disagree what is the correct way to deal with this. ... Larry, David and I crafted some wording, but it is a fragile detente. ... I may get to this earlier. We'll see. action-982 action-982? <trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Cynthia Shelly to create UIA special case test cases from existing generated test cases. -- due 2012-03-14 -- OPEN <trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982 [24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982 CS: there are a bunch of mappings that say, "it maps to this, except when, …" and "it maps to this, but also map this other thing". ... these need to be hand crafted. Move the due date to july 1. action-1104 action-1104? <trackbot> ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN <trackbot> [25]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104 [25] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104 CS: I don't know what the right answer is for this. ... for UIA express, we put it into the legacy description field. ... I still need to think about this some more. ... I think there should be an accessible object for it, but make it not focusable. ... change due date to next week. JS: done. action-1210 action-1210? <trackbot> ACTION-1210 -- Cynthia Shelly to research why test case 267 fails. Is UAIG or IE10 impl correct? -- due 2013-05-02 -- OPEN <trackbot> [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210 [26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210 CS: that's still active. Next week. JS: that's it for you. ... let's call it a meeting then. RRSAgent: make minutes RRSAgent: make minutes RRSAgent: make minutes RRSAgent: make minutes RRSAgent: make minutes RRSAgent: make minutes Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [27]scribe.perl version 1.138 ([28]CVS log) $Date: 2013-05-16 17:41:43 $ __________________________________________________________ [27] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [28] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ -- ;;;;joseph. 'A: After all, it isn't rocket science.' 'K: Right. It's merely computer science.' - J. D. Klaun -
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