- From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:58:38 -0800
- To: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
- Cc: "wai-xtech@w3.org WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>, James Teh <jamie@nvaccess.org>
On Feb 28, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com> wrote: > As long as ARIA allows to generate content ARIA in CSS looks > reasonable. However I expect this can be a performance hit since > browsers need to watch both DOM and CSS, especially because a single > change in CSS can cause the thousands of accessibility events. If the > author is not cautious enough then ARIA in CSS can become a bottleneck > easily. Are there other alternatives to control accessibility mappings > of CSS generated content? The only way I know of is using the reader media type I mentioned below. This could allow basic functionality like hiding and labeling, but to my knowledge, no browser implements that media type, and the draft has been stagnant for nearly a decade (2004). >>> Since, to my knowledge, there is no way to define modality-specific >>> alternatives to unicode glyphs, we could potentially implement the "reader" >>> media type. >>> >>> .expandable:before { content: "\25BA"; /* a.k.a. ► */ } >>> @media reader { .expandable:before { content: ""; } } >>> >>> .new:before { content: "\2730"; /* a.k.a. ✰ */ } >>> @media reader { .new:before { content: "New!"; } } >>> >>> However, the CSS 3 Reader draft [3] has made no progress since 2004, and >>> appears to be stagnant. > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:50 AM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote: >> Not seeing much traction on this thread in the www-style group [1], so I'm >> moving to wai-xtech to discuss this in the context of an ARIA solution. This >> represents an accessibility and usability problem for Apple in several >> production environments, so we need to find a web standard solution to make >> this work. I'm leaving the www-style list in the BCC for this one message, >> so that any interested parties know to follow the thread on wai-xtech. >> >> Background: >> >> The issue of allowing ARIA in CSS has been raised and soundly rejected >> several times, as the general consensus (of both PFWG and CSSWG) is that >> functional information like ARIA should be available in the DOM. I generally >> agree with this consensus. However, it's recently come to my attention that >> sometimes this is not possible, particularly with regards to generated >> content and pseudo-elements that have no DOM node on which to hang ARIA >> attributes. For example: >> >> On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:42:29 GMT, James Craig wrote [1]: >> >>> With the following markup: >>> >>> <li role="treeitem" aria-expanded="false" class="expandable">Vegetables</li> >>> >>> And this CSS: >>> >>> .expandable:before { content: "\25BA"; /* a.k.a. ► */ } >>> >>> The text character is exposed to accessibility trees according to the rules >>> in the ARIA text alternative computation [2]. This character is spoken by >>> some screen readers or text-to-speech engines as "Black right-pointing >>> pointer" according to the unicode description for the character. >>> >>> So the expandable tree item is spoken like this: >>> >>> "Black right-pointing pointer, Vegetables, collapsed" >>> >>> This is obviously not ideal, as the glyph is intended as a style that is >>> already conveyed semantically via the attributes, and should be spoken as >>> this: >>> >>> "Vegetables, collapsed" (the 'collapsed' string varies by screen reader, but >>> is generated based on aria-expanded="false") >>> >>> CSS allows for text alternative fallback content to CSS-generated images, >>> like so: >>> >>> /* empty fallback text string, because the semantics are defined in the DOM >>> */ >>> .expandable:before { content: url(./img/collapsed.png), ""; } >>> >>> /* similarly */ >>> .new:before { content: url(./img/star.png), "New!"; } >>> >>> /* or even better */ >>> .new:before { content: url(./img/star.png), attr(data-new); } /* allows DOM >>> localized values for @data-new="New!" */ >>> >>> However, there is no way to do the same thing with unicode characters >>> exposed as text content. >>> >>> .new:before { content: "\2730", "New!"; } /* both are text, so no way to >>> declare modality in fallback order */ >>> /* this character is ✰ which would be spoken as "black shadowed white star" >>> instead of the intended "New!" */ >>> >>> If this were an element (as opposed to a pseudo-element) we could override >>> the label with @aria-label or hide the element entirely with @aria-hidden. >>> Since, to my knowledge, there is no way to define modality-specific >>> alternatives to unicode glyphs, we could potentially implement the "reader" >>> media type. >>> >>> .expandable:before { content: "\25BA"; /* a.k.a. ► */ } >>> @media reader { .expandable:before { content: ""; } } >>> >>> .new:before { content: "\2730"; /* a.k.a. ✰ */ } >>> @media reader { .new:before { content: "New!"; } } >>> >>> However, the CSS 3 Reader draft [3] has made no progress since 2004, and >>> appears to be stagnant. >> >> >> Also, as Dominic Mazzoni (Google), Jamie Teh (NVDA), and others have pointed >> out [4], even when it's possible to use the DOM for ARIA, it can represent a >> large number of DOM manipulations in certain circumstances which has >> potential performance implications. >> >> Proposal: >> >> It is for the above reasons that I am proposing allowing a limited set of >> ARIA properties into CSS interpreters as part of ARIA 2.0. >> >> .new:before { content: "\2730"; aria-label: "New!"; } >> .new:before { content: "\2730"; aria-label: attr(data-pseudo-alt); } /* >> would allow pseudo-element attrs to be defined on the parent node */ >> >> In the case of true style information that is already adequately represented >> in the DOM, this would allow an author to explicitly prevent the generated >> content from being exposed to screen readers. >> >> .expandable:before { content: "\25BA"; /* a.k.a. ► */ aria-hidden: true; } >> >> In cases where alternatives or properties could be conveyed using existing >> CSS, don't use ARIA properties in CSS. This is more or less equivalent to >> what we recommend for HTML, too. E. g. if you can use @alt (as on an <img>) >> , there is no need to use @aria-label. >> >> /* No need to override with aria-label, b/c CSS supports image fallback >> text. */ >> .new:before { content: url(./img/star.png), "New!"; } >> >> Thoughts? I'll raise the ARIA 2.0 issue in the PFWG tracker once any >> discussion settles. >> >> Thanks, >> James Craig >> >> >> 1. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Nov/0233.html >> >> 2. http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/complete#tac_gencss >> 3. http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-reader/ >> 4. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-indie-ui/2013Feb/0010.html >>
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