Re: Minutes from UAIG call on 3 December

Actually I'm seeing the same thing in IE, and the same thing on Select 
elements with embedded Option elements, all of which appear to have role 
mappings of list and list item in MSAA and UIA objects, so I may be 
mistaken.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
To: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>; "WAI XTech" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Minutes from UAIG call on 3 December


> Hi, a quick note regarding the role mapping for listbox in Firefox.
>
> I was curious, so I just checked this and I can see the same, the role of 
> 'list' set within the MSAA object for an element marked with role=listbox 
> in the markup. I'm not sure if this too was mentioned in the call or not, 
> but the same issue is true for elements marked up with role=option, they 
> are being shown as MSAA objects with a role of 'list item'. Is 'list item' 
> the correct mapping for an element with role=option?
>
> My apologies if this was also mentioned and I missed it.
>
> All the best,
> Bryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "WAI XTech" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:08 PM
> Subject: Minutes from UAIG call on 3 December
>
>
>> Minutes from the ARIA User Agent Implementation Guide teleconference of 3 
>> December are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html
>>
>>
>>   W3C
>>
>>                                                                           
>>   - DRAFT -
>>
>>                                                              Protocols 
>> and Formats Working Group Teleconference
>>
>> 03 Dec 2013
>>
>>   Agenda
>>
>>   See also: IRC log
>>
>> Attendees
>>
>>   Present
>>          +1.415.624.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, Bryan_Garaventa, David_Bolter, 
>> Joseph_Scheuhammer, janina, Cynthia_Shelly
>>
>>   Regrets
>>   Chair
>>          SV_MEETING_CHAIR
>>
>>   Scribe
>>          janina
>>
>> Contents
>>
>>     * Topics
>>         1. Issue-629
>>         2. Other At Risk Items
>>         3. GNOME Comments
>>     * Summary of Action Items
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>   <trackbot> Date: 03 December 2013
>>
>>   I'm getting "invalid conference code" from Zakim!
>>
>>   <scribe> scribe: janina
>>
>> Issue-629
>>
>>   <clown> issue-629?
>>
>>   <trackbot> issue-629 -- Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu 
>> event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column -- open
>>
>>   <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629
>>
>>   clown: Rich reported he was unable to test part of this
>>   ... We agreed an approach
>>
>>   <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=2
>>
>>   cyns: I can test
>>
>>   clown: Timeline?
>>
>>   <clown> relevant test cases are 94, 95, 104-108.
>>
>>   Michael: We're better safe than sorry marking items "at risk."
>>   ... Suggest we mark any now.
>>
>>   <clown> 
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#mapping_events_menus
>>
>>   [discussion of options]
>>
>>   RESOLUTION: Mark the table "at risk," but insure it appears in the 
>> first Editor's Draft of ARIA-1.1
>>
>>   <davidb> thanks for the latter part :)
>>
>>   Sure!
>>
>>   <clown> ACTION: Joseph to add an "at risk" Editorial note for the menu 
>> events table in seciont 5.8.4, and publish an editors' draft. [recorded 
>> in
>>   http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-1313 - Add an "at risk" editorial note for 
>> the menu events table in seciont 5.8.4, and publish an editors' draft. 
>> [on Joseph Scheuhammer -
>>   due 2013-12-10].
>>
>>   <clown> ACTION: Restore menu events table for section 5.8.4 for ARIA 
>> 1.1 implementation guide. [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
>>
>>   <trackbot> Error finding 'Restore'. You can review and register 
>> nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
>>
>>   <clown> ACTION: Joseph to restore menu events table for section 5.8.4 
>> for ARIA 1.1 implementation guide. [recorded in
>>   http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
>>
>>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-1314 - Restore menu events table for section 
>> 5.8.4 for aria 1.1 implementation guide. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 
>> 2013-12-10].
>>
>>   <MichaelC> action-1314 due 4 March 2014
>>
>>   <trackbot> Set action-1314 Restore menu events table for section 5.8.4 
>> for aria 1.1 implementation guide. due date to 2014-03-04.
>>
>> Other At Risk Items
>>
>>   michael: 31, 32 ...
>>
>>   clown: Already at risk, and not expected to succeed
>>
>>   michael: Just want to insure that failing states are mark at risk now
>>
>> GNOME Comments
>>
>>   <clown> 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2013OctDec/0001.html
>>
>>   clown: I've looked at all
>>   ... I've noted where tests fail or succeed
>>   ... Most changes are substantive and we will suggest we adopt in 1.1
>>   ... Especially as the current tests pass
>>
>>   <davidb> filed mozilla bug 945907 for new landmark role
>>
>>   clown: Only one test 68 fails
>>   ... Comment points to a new role
>>
>>   <davidb> filed mozilla bug 945915 for atk/at-spi checkable
>>
>>   [discussion of comment processing]
>>
>>   clown: Please email when Joanie's comments are in the tool
>>
>> Summary of Action Items
>>
>>   [NEW] ACTION: Joseph to add an "at risk" Editorial note for the menu 
>> events table in seciont 5.8.4, and publish an editors' draft. [recorded 
>> in
>>   http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
>>   [NEW] ACTION: Joseph to restore menu events table for section 5.8.4 for 
>> ARIA 1.1 implementation guide. [recorded in
>>   http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
>>   [NEW] ACTION: Restore menu events table for section 5.8.4 for ARIA 1.1 
>> implementation guide. [recorded in 
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/03-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
>>
>>   [End of minutes]
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Found Scribe: janina
>> Present: +1.415.624.aaaa Michael_Cooper Bryan_Garaventa David_Bolter 
>> Joseph_Scheuhammer janina Cynthia_Shelly
>> People with action items: joseph restore
>>
>> -- 
>>
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>> Email: janina@rednote.net
>>
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>>
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