[ACTION-891] (Was: UAI TF meeting tomorrow)

Cynthia and David,

I realize you might not have seen this question due to the misleading
subject line. Still looking for responses from you two.

Andi


----- Forwarded by Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM on 02/15/2012 11:16 AM -----

From:	Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM
To:	cyns@microsoft.com, dbolter@mozilla.com, jcraig@apple.com
Cc:	wai-xtech@w3.org <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Date:	02/13/2012 05:53 PM
Subject:	Fw: UAI TF meeting tomorrow


See also this related note to the PF mailing list today from James:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2012JanMar/0129.html

Andi

----- Forwarded by Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM on 02/13/2012 05:52 PM -----

From:	Andi Snow-Weaver/Austin/IBM
To:	cyns@microsoft.com
Cc:	dbolter@mozilla.com, jcraig@apple.com
Date:	02/13/2012 05:48 PM
Subject:	UAI TF meeting tomorrow


I have a conflict again tomorrow so I can't meet.

We do have an issue we need to discuss though. Perhaps we can do it via
e-mail.

It's related to ACTION-891:

https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/891

The UAIG states that when an element is referenced by an aria property then
it must be in the accessibility tree. See the last bullet in section 5.1.1:

http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#include_elements

We know that FF does not include referenced elements in the accessibility
tree if they are hidden using CSS display:none. Cynthia, I think you were
going to check to see what IE does.

James, in today's meeting, if you said what Safari does, I missed it and it
wasn't captured in the minutes.

But the question is, what is the right thing to do when an aria property
references something that is hidden in all the various ways: aria-hidden,
CSS display:none and visibility:hidden. ?

There are some better minutes from the discussion of ACTION-891 in last
week's ARIA TF minutes:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2012JanMar/0110.html

Sounds like this might trigger a second last call on the UAIG. :(

Andi