- From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:50:36 +0100
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTimptXLTj5kg=5yKXzn1BpotAQy5ww_NjXECTkZ4@mail.gmail.com>
hi Laura, >This technique along with many other that have surfaced recently seem >to be a reaction to longdesc being dropped from HTML5. since i started this thread I am clear on what it was a reaction to, and I can state unequivocally it was not motivated by anything to do with trying to find a replacement for longdesc. It is/was an attempt understand how aria-labelledby and aria-describedby should treat referenced hidden content. Something to remember: although the example uses an image aria-labelledby and aria-describedby can be used on ANY element. regards Stevef On 14 September 2010 21:56, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>wrote: > David Bolter wrote: > > Sorry a bit rushed here and I don't feel like I fully understand this > > thread. > > This technique along with many other that have surfaced recently seem > to be a reaction to longdesc being dropped from HTML5. > > No one has come up with anything simpler or better than longdesc. > Banishing an existing solution while not providing a better solution, > it not a solution. All solutions presented to date seem to me to be > convoluted hacks. The existing solution should have been improved (we > had bugs on how to do that [1] [2] [3] [4]), or the existing solution > should be gracefully replaced with a better solution. > > The Chairs' Decision [5] states that: > > QUOTE > > This issue can be reopened if new information comes up. Examples of > possible relevant new information include: > > * use cases that specifically require longdesc, > * evidence that correct usage is growing rapidly and that that growth > is expected to continue, or > * widespread interoperable implementation. > > UNQUOTE > > I have been researching and amassing use cases of Longdesc in the Wild. > http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/ld.html > > Is this information grounds to reopen the issue or the basis for a > formal objection? > > Best Regards, > Laura > > [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10019 > [2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10017 > [3] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10018 > [4] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10015 > [5] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/att-0112/issue-30-decision.html > > -- > Laura L. Carlson > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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