- From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:42:32 +0100
- To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTikjHttELr3h5YpAMQdzOhzN-bUeq9R1EFU7SDW8@mail.gmail.com>
Hi leif, >Did you by "should it be given that the div is hidden?" No i was hoping to get confirmation that the behaviour exhibited is indeed correct in regards to the aria spec, it seems pretty clear to me that it is, I am just surprised by it. But it of course brings up the question of the relationship between aria-hidden and the html5 hidden attributes, as i am pretty sure that this behaviour conflicts with what is specified for the html5 hidden attribute. regards Stevef On 10 September 2010 16:33, Leif Halvard Silli < xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> wrote: > Did you by "should it be given that the div is hidden?" mean to ask if > ARIA should treat an element with the @hidden boolean the same way as > it would treat an element with the @aria-hidden? > > (This reminds me about Jonas' recent suggestion in the @longdesc > debate, that it should be possible to point to a @hidden element via > aria-labelledby/-describedby.) > > Leif > > > Steven Faulkner, Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:47:09 +0100: > > Note: also exposed as an accessible decription in Safari on Mac and > > chrome on windows. > > > > regards > > Stevef > > > > On 10 September 2010 15:36, Steven Faulkner > > <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> the code below references a hidden div element with a description. > >> The description text string is provided in the accessible > >> description property in MSAA and Ia2 in firefox, should it be given > >> that the div is hidden? > >> > >> <img alt="bottle" aria-describedby="x"> > >> <div aria-hidden="true" style="display:none"> > >> blue bottle with a rusty lid > >> </div> > >> > >> > >> the following from the WAI-ARIA spec > >> [http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/complete#namecalculation] suggests it > >> is OK. > >> "The text alternative for a given node is computed as follows: > >> 1. Skip hidden elements unless the author specifies to use > them via > >> an aria-labelledby or aria-describedby being used in the current > >> computation. By default, users of assistive technologies won't > >> receive the hidden information, but an author will be able to > >> explicitly override that and include the hidden information. " > >> If so it is a useful method of providing descriptive information for > >> AT users. > >> > >> -- > >> with regards > >> > >> Steve Faulkner > >> Technical Director - TPG Europe > >> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium > >> > >> www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org > >> Web Accessibility Toolbar - > >> http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html > > > > > > > > -- > > with regards > > > > Steve Faulkner > > Technical Director - TPG Europe > > Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium > > > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org > > Web Accessibility Toolbar - > > http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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