- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 22:14:41 +0100
- To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca>, Kenny Johar <kennyjohar@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com>, Becky Gibson <gibsonb@us.ibm.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
aloha, joseph! i'd prefer a generic rule that HOME and END always go to the first and last item in the field/area/landmark/checkboxes/controlgroup/whatever which has focus using "standard" keys with web-based forms with an application such as a screenreader, is currently a tricky proposition; when i try to go to the top of the TEXTAREA in which i'm typing this emessage using the HOME key, 4 out of 5 times focus jumps out of the TEXTAREA and moves to the first item on the page (whether i'm in "forms mode" or not, whether i use JAWS or NVDA) -- i don't know if this is a windows 7 problem, a FireFox problem or a screen reader problem or some combination of the above... gregory. -------------------------------------------------------------- CRITIC, n. A person who boasts himself hard to please because nobody tries to please him. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary -------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita: oedipus@hicom.net Oedipus' Online Complex: http://my.opera.com/oedipus/ Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html -------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca> To: Kenny Johar <kennyjohar@gmail.com> Cc: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com>, Becky Gibson <gibsonb@us.ibm.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org> Sent: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:03:00 -0400 Subject: Re: toolbar keyboard navigation > Stefan Schnabel wrote: > > > HOME end END key always should be supported in addition to select > > explicitly the first/last item in the respective toolbar. > > Kenny Johar wrote: > > > A big +1 for this suggestion. Most of the screen reader users I have > > talked to, including myself, instinctivvely expect that the home and > > end keys will do the expected in a group of controls i.e. move to the > > first and last controls respectively. > > Matthew King wrote: > > Stefan makes good point about home and end that we did not discuss this > > morning. Currently, DSG does not mention home/end, and they should be in > > there. Perhaps this should be added to the action regarding direct access > > to the toolbar where the toolbar is not in the tab order. > > > > That's my action. I'm happy to add the proposal to include > home/end for toolbar navigation when I contact the DSG about > quick navigation to and from a group of toolbars. > > -- > ;;;;joseph > > 'Clown control to Mao Tse Tung.' > - D. Bowie (misheard lyric) - ------- End of Original Message -------
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