- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 22:14:41 +0100
- To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca>, Kenny Johar <kennyjohar@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com>, Becky Gibson <gibsonb@us.ibm.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
aloha, joseph!
i'd prefer a generic rule that HOME and END always go to the first
and last item in the field/area/landmark/checkboxes/controlgroup/whatever
which has focus
using "standard" keys with web-based forms with an application such as a
screenreader, is currently a tricky proposition; when i try to go to the
top of the TEXTAREA in which i'm typing this emessage using the HOME
key, 4 out of 5 times focus jumps out of the TEXTAREA and moves to the
first item on the page (whether i'm in "forms mode" or not, whether i use
JAWS or NVDA) -- i don't know if this is a windows 7 problem, a
FireFox problem or a screen reader problem or some combination of
the above... gregory.
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca>
To: Kenny Johar <kennyjohar@gmail.com>
Cc: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, Matthew King
<mattking@us.ibm.com>, Becky Gibson <gibsonb@us.ibm.com>, Richard
Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, "wai-xtech@w3.org"
<wai-xtech@w3.org>
Sent: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:03:00 -0400
Subject: Re: toolbar keyboard navigation
> Stefan Schnabel wrote:
>
> > HOME end END key always should be supported in addition to select
> > explicitly the first/last item in the respective toolbar.
>
> Kenny Johar wrote:
>
> > A big +1 for this suggestion. Most of the screen reader users I have
> > talked to, including myself, instinctivvely expect that the home and
> > end keys will do the expected in a group of controls i.e. move to the
> > first and last controls respectively.
>
> Matthew King wrote:
> > Stefan makes good point about home and end that we did not discuss this
> > morning. Currently, DSG does not mention home/end, and they should be in
> > there. Perhaps this should be added to the action regarding direct access
> > to the toolbar where the toolbar is not in the tab order.
> >
>
> That's my action. I'm happy to add the proposal to include
> home/end for toolbar navigation when I contact the DSG about
> quick navigation to and from a group of toolbars.
>
> --
> ;;;;joseph
>
> 'Clown control to Mao Tse Tung.'
> - D. Bowie (misheard lyric) -
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