RE: WAI ARIA on mobile

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reference link  -- very helpful.

We are still left with a basic problem that exists on mobile phones,
i.e. absence of an accessibility API. On the desktop we have the browser
mapping ARIA roles and states to already-existing properties in the
underlying accessibility API. We do not have such luxury on mobile
phone, neither S60 nor WM platforms.

I am presuming that with the introduction of Voiceover screen reader
into IPhone 3GS, Apple accessibility API travelled with it as well. J

 

Thanks,

Victor

 

 

 

From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:35 AM
To: Victor Tsaran
Cc: David Todd; wai-xtech@w3.org
Subject: Re: WAI ARIA on mobile

 

It would appear that ARIA attributes which define types of objects in
the page are the bulk of the ARIA support in Safari 4. List is here:

http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplication
s/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html

So things like button, img, link, checkbox are supported. Live regions,
landmarks and other ARIA-specific constructs appear to be absent.

CB

Victor Tsaran wrote: 

I believe Webkit exposes some ARIA roles but not too many, to my
knowledge.

See http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog for more information.

 

Regards,

Victor

 

From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of David Todd
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:47 AM
To: wai-xtech@w3.org
Subject: RE: WAI ARIA on mobile

 

Victor,

You mention that these platforms don't support ARIA landmarks.  I'm
guessing these platforms don't support ARIA at all yet.  Right?

David Todd
IBM Human Ability & Accessibility Center


wai-xtech-request@w3.org wrote on 07/21/2009 06:33:10 PM:

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> RE: WAI ARIA on mobile
> 
> Victor Tsaran 
> 
> to:
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> Boland Jr., Frederick E., w3c-wai-pf
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> 07/21/2009 06:36 PM
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> Sent by:
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> wai-xtech-request@w3.org
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> Cc:
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> wai-xtech
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> Two things:
> 1. S60 and Safari, which are the only two fully accessible browsers on
> Nokia and IPhone platforms do not yet support ARIA landmarks because
> they are not exposed by the Webkit, an engine that powers both
browsers.
> Neither IPhone's Voiceover nor Nokia's Talks and Mobilespeak
understand
> ARIA landmarks even if they were available.
> 
> Regards,
> Victor
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Boland Jr., Frederick E.
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:11 PM
> To: w3c-wai-pf@w3.org
> Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org
> Subject: FW: WAI ARIA on mobile
> 
> Fyi for consideration and discussion
> Best, Tim Boland NIST
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Phil Archer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:27 AM
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Cc: Shawn Henry; Henny Swan
> Subject: WAI ARIA on mobile
> 
> Greetings from Mobile Land...
> 
> One of the participants in our Introduction to W3C Mobile Web Best
> Practices course [1], Jeff Van Campen of the London Web Standards
Group
> [2], raised this issue on the discussion forum. As that forum isn't
> public, I'm copying his mail here as I don't know the answer and I'm
> interested to know!
> 
> === Jeff's message begins===
> 
> I was at WordCamp UK over the weekend (along with fellow Mobile Best
> Practice students Laura Kalbag and Gicela Morales).
> 
> As a part of a hacking session Laura, myself and a few other
WordPresser
> were looking at modifying Kubrick, the default WordPress theme, to
work
> in a mobile context.
> 
> One of the issues we ran into is that Kubrick includes WAI-ARIA roles
as
> of WordPress 2.8.
> 
> As we were working, we removed them, as this made validation easier.
> 
> I understand that WAI-ARIA isn't supported on any mobile browsers yet,
> but I'd like to add them to the code for two reasons:
> 
> 1. So that the code is future proof
> 2. So that they are discoverable by people examining the code, who may
> not know about WAI-ARIA
> 
> That brings me to two questions:
> 
> 1. Does anyone know of any issues with WAI-ARIA roles in existing
mobile
> browsers?
> 2. Is it likely that WAI-ARIA will be included as a module in a future
> version of XHTML Basic?
> 
> === ends ===
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/mobitrain_course_description.html
> [2] http://londonwebstandards.org/
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Phil Archer
> W3C Mobile Web Initiative
> http://www.w3.org/Mobile
> 
> http://philarcher.org
> 
> 
>