copy/cut-and-paste and drag'n'drop API implementations (was RE: drag'n'drop is grab'n'drop for non-visual users)

aloha, ian!

thank you -- that is certainly important information for us (and by "us" 
i mean everyone) to keep in mind; personally, i have argued that the 
same set of keystrokes could be reused, but the aria caucus has (to this
point) decided otherwise...

since we are dealing with implementation details of a specific function, 
i think this this a point that needs coordination, not just between the 
WAI and HTML WG, but in the XHTML2, WebApps, RWAB XG and other fora

chris, aaron, becky -- does modifier+M to "mark" something use the same 
API as copy and paste?  if not, what API does it use and how does it 
differ?  in other words, are other applications and markup languages 
using copy-and-paste and drag-and-drop as programmatic synonyms, or are
others following a different path than HTML5, which maps both types of 
operation to the exact same set of APIs and events?

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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Ian Hickson <>
To: Sean Hayes <>
Cc: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <>, "" <wai->, "" <>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:43:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: drag'n'drop is grab'n'drop for non-visual users

> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Sean Hayes wrote:
> > 
> > maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how is this different to 
> > (or cut) and paste?
> FWIW, in HTML5 copy-and-paste and drag-and-drop are exposed 
> using the exact same set of APIs and events.
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