- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:39:04 -0600
- To: "Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd)" <P.Taylor@Rhul.Ac.Uk>
- Cc: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Philip TAYLOR <Philip-and-LeKhanh@Royal-Tunbridge-Wells.Org>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org, wai-liaison@w3.org, janina@rednote.net
Let's take care with subject lines, please... On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 16:07 +0000, Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) wrote: > > > Sam Ruby wrote: > > > The co-chairs (Chris Wilson and myself) made a decision to publish based > > on our assessment of the input received by the working group over a > > period of several weeks and a number of phone calls. If you have input > > on any or all of Chris's explicit request on the mailing list, the > > minutes from the phone calls, or the issue in the tracker itself could > > have been more clear on the matter, I would be glad to hear it. Or if > > you know of some input that the chairs did not give proper attention to, > > please cite it. > > It is not possible to know if there was any "input [to which] the chairs > did not give proper attention", since we (the WG) do not have access to > the workings of the co-Chairmen's minds. My point (and I do not wish > to drag this matter out) is that I believe that, following the cessation > of active discussion on 30th ult., the co-Chairmen should have reported > to the WG that they had considered all points raised so far, and that, > in their opinion, there were no outstanding objections to publication. They did pretty much that in the teleconference of 29 Jan, with minutes announce 2 Feb: "RESOLVED: to publish the HTML 5 spec and the diff document" -- http://www.w3.org/2009/01/29-html-wg-irc http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0015.html The action to publish was then assigned to Mike; it took him a little while to get it done due to travel etc. I say "pretty much" because actually, there was/is one outstanding objection, from Masinter/Adobe. We like to have consensus, but we proceed without it sometimes: "When the Chair believes that the Group has duly considered the legitimate concerns of dissenters as far as is possible and reasonable, the group SHOULD move on." -- http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Consensus And of course, the transaction that concluded 29 Jan started 22 Jan with Chris Wilson's proposal. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0012.html > They should then have gone on to say that they proposed publishing the > current draft of the specification as a WD on <date> and asking if there > were any objections to this. I don't see why *another* round trip through the WG would have helped. > This simply did not occur, and the publication > therefore took place without the informed consent of this WG. I don't see it that way. > Philip TAYLOR -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ gpg D3C2 887B 0F92 6005 C541 0875 0F91 96DE 6E52 C29E
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