- From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:07:32 +0100
- To: "Victor Tsaran" <vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com>, "Chris Blouch" <cblouch@aol.com>
- Cc: "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@utoronto.ca>, "Evans, Donald" <Donald.Evans@corp.aol.com>, "Earl Johnson" <Earl.Johnson@Sun.COM>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I agree. Creativity is always limited if you have to think of using rollers instead of fine brushes when creating fine art :) Regards Stefan -----Original Message----- From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Victor Tsaran Sent: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 00:26 To: Chris Blouch Cc: Joseph Scheuhammer; Evans, Donald; Earl Johnson; wai-xtech@w3.org Subject: Re: Which is it? - widget keynav I would like to think of ARIA in particular as a progressive enhancement feature rather than being a solution for everything. While building web 2.0 apps we do not want to discourage developers from thinking symantically about the pages they are building. I think this is fundemental for best software practices as well as for web 2.0 apps. Regards, Victor Chris Blouch wrote: > > This is a tough nut to crack. We are trying to make web apps behave > like desktop apps and the precedent set forth by various OSes has been > discord in some areas of navigation. So do we emulate the desktop to > the point where web apps also vary from platform to platform or do we > try to extract what a best practice is. Of course we go with a single > best practice. That, unfortunately, means there will be winners and > losers. For the losers there is the loss of potentially years of > muscle memory from consistent object-action bindings. Obviously the > choices will be hard and should not be driven by platform dominance, > but we must either choose unity and consistency between > browsers/platforms or it the same old dichotomy all over again. One of > the alluring aspects of the web was platform or user-agent > agnosticism. Some suffering by some users now for a consistent widget > behavior for everyone later seems a worthy cost. The age old common > good argument. > > CB > > Joseph Scheuhammer wrote: >> >>> >>> As an example, many people already understand how to operate a treeview >>> from the MS OS. Therefore it makes sense to mimic that keyboard >>> behavior in the same type of widget on the web. >> >> Except...those people who use Macs. They are used to its treeview >> key navigation, so it seem odd to them to switch gears to the web >> tree widget. >> >> Which doesn't answer the question re: sticking to the platform's key >> navigation vs. overriding. It just adds fuel to fire (to switch >> metaphors). >> >
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