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Re: Mandatory and Important

From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:44:14 -0400
Message-ID: <50C3DAE092BA4D7FA2CA11F5A6D302BE@HANDS>
To: "Al Gilman" <alfred.s.gilman@ieee.org>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "Dave Singer" <singer@apple.com>
Cc: "Doug Schepers" <schepers@w3.org>, "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>, "W3C WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>

most sane tools should warn that it is missing and not pass it forcing the 
proper attention to it.  @role still does not cover what can only be human 
judgements till we get machines that can parse images and make textual sense 
out of them.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Singer" <singer@apple.com>
To: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>; "Al Gilman" 
<alfred.s.gilman@ieee.org>; "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
Cc: "Doug Schepers" <schepers@w3.org>; "Karl Dubost" <karl@w3.org>; "W3C 
WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Mandatory and Important

At 10:05  -0400 22/08/08, David Poehlman wrote:
>not optional, missing.  If it is missing it breaks spec but is still 
>so tools/authors need to fix it so that it is not missing.  The {} for
>instance was the hack to prevent missing.  I am saying that it should be

But if missing is non-conformant, most sane tool authors will insert
it to avoid a conformance failure.

Then they insert alt="" (a lie) or alt="random text" (useless).

Look, honestly, I don't want to sound harsh, and I value the
dialogue, but until someone is actually willing to provide an
alternative answer to the question -- not duck it, change it, or deny
the problem exists -- we are just annoying each other.  The spec. at
least contains *an* answer, and it seems as if the discussion of role
might converge on another.
David Singer
Received on Friday, 22 August 2008 16:47:22 UTC

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