Re: Style guide: rich text editor

How would a keyboard-only user navigate in the page? That is a section 508 
issue.

- Aaron





"David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com> 
04/11/2008 01:00 PM

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Re: Style guide: rich text editor






I actually think an editor should act like an editor.  to escape out of it 

should be like any other ap.  in otherwords, use a close action.  The tab 
function for escape is why JAWS still has that stupid forms mode you have 
to 
to into and out of.  Tab to the field, do your stuff and release is what 
it 
should be.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron M Leventhal" <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
To: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: Style guide: rich text editor


Unfortunately there is a conflict between those 2 uses of tab and one had
to win. Being able to navigate in and out is more crucial. Those rich text
editors that do need an indent feature will need to add something on their
accessible toolbar that allows indenting etc. A keystroke can be added.
The web authors already need to do that for indenting in a rich text
editor for IE.  We felt it was important to make the browsers more
consistent with each other and support the most crucial accessibility
need.

- Aaron





"David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
04/11/2008 12:37 PM

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so how do we get tab into an edit field if we need something to indent
with
or to separate with?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron M Leventhal" <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:30 AM
Subject: Style guide: rich text editor


1. The style guide has:

Note: The browser should also provide a keyboard mechanism for navigating
into and out of the edit control. Within Internet Explorer the edit
control is put into the tab order of the page and can be navigated into,
out of, and through using the tab and shift-tab keys like any standard
form control. Firefox also puts the edit control into the tab order.
However, Firefox has actually implemented tab as an action within the edit
control so currently there is no keyboard way to navigate out of the
editor component once focus has been placed inside of it.

This has changed with Firefox 3. In general, I think with mentioning
browsers in the doc, you better put version #s because things change.

2. Browser rich edit controls don't support keyboard shortcuts for
bold/italic etc. because they don't know which of those features the
particular edit field wants to support. The style guide should mention
this. Do people thing that the rich edit fields should support Ctrl+B for
bold etc. when the particular edit field supports bold?

- Araon