- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 05:56:31 -0500 (EST)
- To: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
- cc: <goliver@accease.com>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
I don't think Graham means text - there are various kinds of "inactive" content. Lots of text is inactive - no explicit associated behaviour. (well, spell-checking it, running it against a dictionary, etc, but that depends on a browser). Images are often inactive. (Well, getting a longdesc, enlarging, but that depnds on a browser...) Audio? Does an explicit play request count as active? Even if it is only provided as a control feature to conform with UAAG? The major problem I have with the use of content is that there are two completely different senses of the content of a document. In the inclusive sense, there is "everything", or as a minimum some concept of the "default rendered content". And there is a more restricted sense of "the information being conveyed" - which means that if the default rendered content presents the information to be conveyed in two or more ways, for redundancy, WCAG should only require things of the information being conveyed, not each rendered instance of it... Chaals On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Wendy A Chisholm wrote: Graham, I think if you mean "text" then we ought to say "text" or "text content" instead of "passive content." As you said in your follow-up post, we already use "active elements" and "text." Both of these are "content" in the UAAG 1.0 definition [1]: In this specification, the noun "content" is used in three ways: It is used to mean the document object as a whole or in parts. It is used to mean the content of an HTML or XML element, in the sense employed by the XML 1.0 specification ([XML], section 3.1): "The text between the start-tag and end-tag is called the element's content." Context should indicate that the term content is being used in this sense. It is used in the context of the phrases non-text content and text content. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/glossary.html#def-content The UAAG definition of "Text content, non-text content, text element, non-text element, text equivalent non-text equivalent" is at: http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/glossary.html#def-non-text-content a definition of rendered content is available at: http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/glossary.html#def-rendered-content In general, I think we can use these definitions. I mistakenly said these were from the ATAG document in my previous email. These are from UAAG. --wendy At 04:28 PM 1/27/02, goliver@accease.com wrote: >Katie >Here is a post >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2001JulSep/0900.html >where I suggested a distinction which I felt would be >useful in terms of defining content. > >Of all the definitions of content provided in your >original post, the following is the one that I >understand the most. > >Telecom Glossary >http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/projects/t1glossary2000/_content.html >content: In Web terminology, the text, media, and links >or information displayed by a browser at a particular >Web site. [Bahorsky] > >Cheers >Graham Oliver > >AccEase Ltd : Making on-line information accessible >Phone : +64 9 846 6995 >Email : goliver@accease.com -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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