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RE: [wbs] response to 'WAI-Curricula Eagle review for learning outcomes for module, learning outcomes for topic, and general modules and topics structure'

From: Daniel Montalvo <dmontalvo@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:30:15 +0100
To: <lkee@loc.gov>
Cc: <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
Message-ID: <003001d5f6f0$d09ef540$71dcdfc0$@w3.org>
Thanks, Laura, for submitting your answers to this questionnaire. Some inline comments below.



Daniel Montalvo

Accessibility Education and Training Specialist
W3C/WAI

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Keen via WBS Mailer <sysbot+wbs@w3.org> 
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Subject: [wbs] response to 'WAI-Curricula Eagle review for learning outcomes for module, learning outcomes for topic, and general modules and topics structure'

The following answers have been successfully submitted to 'WAI-Curricula Eagle review for learning outcomes for module, learning outcomes for topic, and general modules and topics structure' (Education and Outreach Working
Group) for Laura Keen.

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> Review level
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> What level of review did you do?
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 * (x) I thoroughly reviewed the materials.
 * ( ) I skimmed them.
 * ( ) I need more time and will review by the date provided below.
 * ( ) I didn't get to it and will not in the near future. I abstain from providing comment.
 


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> General Dependencies
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> Please have a look at the section Prerequisites for Students. It 
> relates prior knowledge to the relevant modules of the Introduction to 
> Web Accessibility curriculum.
> Please answer the following questions:
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>  * Do you think these prerequisites are appropriate?
>  * Do you think there is any prerequisites missing?
>  * Would you add any other prerequisites?
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Comments: 
I agree with these prerequisites.  I have nothing to add.

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> Competencies for Modules
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> In addition to the above description, specific competencies  are added 
> at a module level for both students and instructors. Please have a 
> look at specific competencies for:
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>  * Module 1: Essentials
> of Accessible Development.
>  * Module 2: Navigating Web Interfaces.
>  * Module 3: Images
> and Graphics.
>  * Module 4: Tables.
>  * Module 5: Forms.
>  * Do you think these competencies are adequate?
>  * Do you think there is any competencies missing?
>  * Would you add any other competencies?
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Comments: 
I'm wondering about listing ECMAScripting as a competency for module 2 and 5.  It seems limiting to me. Are we creating a module to teach it? Creating accessible navigation is possible without scripting.

Interesting point for discussion. Possibly we would be changing ECMAScript to JavaScript, as it is by far the most used programming language in the web. Based on other's comments, I think we can avoid that level of abstraction.

Yes, you can create accessible menus without using JavaScript, but I don't see how you could implement some functionality of a dropdown menu without using JavaScript. You need at least a basic script that allows to keep track of whether a menu item is expanded or collapsed, or of whether a bunch of submenu items are visible or hidden via CSS. And dropdown menus are mentioned in module 2 topic 3, Additional functionality. It might be worth for us to keep this additional (or somehow complex) functionality out of these first modules so that we can avoid the limitation that referencing JavaScript could mean for this module.


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> Modules and topics Structure
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> Please have a look at Modules and topics structure outline. If you 
> can, read the specific topics by following their corresponding links 
> in the outline.
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>  * Do you think there are any unnecessary or unclear topics in the 
> current outline?
>  * Do you miss any topic in the current outline?
>  * Do you think there are overlaps in the current topic outline? If 
> so, how would you address them?
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Comments: 
I think the topics are robust. I didn't see anything that I'd change.

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> Additional comments
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> Use the space below to include any additional observations or 
> questions you would like to have considered during the extensive 
> discussion at the face to face meeting next week. Thank you!
> 
Additional Comments: 


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> These answers were last modified on 6 March 2020 at 16:09:13 U.T.C.
> by Laura Keen
> 
Answers to this questionnaire can be set and changed at https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/wai-curricula-2nd-curriculum-eagle-rev/
until 2020-03-09.

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